Maybe the Brooklyn Boys are running on two stroke engine oil often used in lower power applications such as a leaf blower.
ha ha. Well that would explain the strong stiff breeze!
GreenhornChristian
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SAD HOLY SPIRIT ILLUSTRATION
by GreenhornChristian injust got an email from elder sharing illustration from assembly.
the holy spirit does not seem to be in control as it supposedly was in the 1st century.
it's just lube now.
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Does the bible have a central theme? Does it prove inspiration?
by GreenhornChristian indoes the bible have a central theme?.
there seems to be a general consensus throughout christian religions that there is a consistent theme throughout the bible.
the seeming evidence of a theme coming from a collection of books written by over 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years is what givse credence to the claim that the bible is an inspired literary work.
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Does the Bible have a central theme?
There seems to be a general consensus throughout Christian religions that there is a consistent theme throughout the Bible. The seeming evidence of a theme coming from a collection of books written by over 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years is what givse credence to the claim that the bible is an inspired literary work.
A Pastor friend supports the claim that the Bible presents an intelligent and integrated worldview in its doctrine of God, the history of man and the theme of salvation. I have the tendency to agree. However, I am not sure if this is because of my JW conditioning or because I objectively agree.
Whether you believe the Bible to be inspired or not do you see a central theme or themes in the Bible?
If so, does this prove the Bible inspired?
As stated, I do see themes running throughout the Bible. I do not believe this proves the Bible inspired. I am having trouble formulating my reasons for disagreeing with my Pastor friend. I want to present a logical argument and not just say that the bible is all bunk and inconsistent. This argument, although valid, seems to close off any further discussion.
Here are my disjointed thoughts about how the Bible could seem to have a theme:
—The Priests are the ones that preserved the holy writings.
—Priests by their very nature would be sensitive to anything that would be inconsistent with their religion.
—The Priest would therefore reject or choose not to preserve any writings that conflict with the original writings. In this case the writings of the great Prophet Moses.
—The Jews seemed to have an elevated view of themselves and their importance in the world.
—An author who wants to be read, even a harsh judgement, would play to this worldview of importance and keep his message consistent with the Torah. i.e. Their view of God, the history of man, there view of death and of their being the top Kingdom of the World.
Do these seem to explain the supposed consistency of the Old Testament? Does my argument seem solid?
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JW.org: " One Hundred Years Ago1914"
by rebel8 inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/.
all links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws.
the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.
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GreenhornChristian
interesting. I had never seen this before.
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My Story: from JW Elder to Born Again Christian to Agnostic
by passwordprotected ini first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.
at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.
april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.
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GreenhornChristian
A few times I felt as though I was reading my own journey.
I am surprised at the short amount of time from when you began to question the truf to when you quit going. I too was an Elder, however, when I first began to question to when I quit attending was just over 6 years. Steve Hassan says it can take 8-10 years. Bravo for you.
I was 38 when leaving in 2010. Tried Christianity and now embrace eastern philosophy. It's very interesting how many follow a similar pattern.
May you continue to have peace.
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Not on JW.Org: Will Armagedon arrive for Jehovah's witnesses before 12:00 Pm EST 10/2/2014 ??
by Balaamsass2 inwell it will be 100 yrs for jehovah's witnesses on 10/2/2014 12pm est.
will armagedon happen?
100yrs is a very long generation, two or three.
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“WE BELIEVE that the Year 1914 gives evidence of greater possibilities of service for the Truth than has any previous year of the Harvest,” stated The Watch Tower of January 1, 1914."
Evidence of greater possibilities of service? I thought they knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that 1914 marked the start of the kingdom!
oh, and there it is: Heaven is a REWARD not a free gift (Just comparing WT to Christian beliefs. Not believing any of it now.)
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SAD HOLY SPIRIT ILLUSTRATION
by GreenhornChristian injust got an email from elder sharing illustration from assembly.
the holy spirit does not seem to be in control as it supposedly was in the 1st century.
it's just lube now.
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Hahaha good catch Punkofnice.
"and when our automobile runs low on power steering fluid we know it immediately. A squeel comes at every turn. It's loud and abrasive and let's us know that some maintenance is required. So too in our spiritual lives Brother and Sisters! When we begin to squeal at every turn from the pangs of life we are in need of maintenance! We need the Oily Spirit to keep our lives in these friction inducing times running smooth!"
long applause. "Yes, apply the Oily Spirit daily friends. Hourly! Moment to moment if necessary. THE END IS SOOO CLOSE! Do not allow this old system to sneak up behind you and give you that pounding! Welcome it! Be ready! Apply the Oily Spirit now and FOREVER!"
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Leaving the JWs, experiencing Christianity and finding freedom! (But it took awhile)
by im_free inthis is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
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GreenhornChristian
Thanks for sharing your story. I tried the Christian thing after leaving. now I can't accept the bible as scripture.
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If a parrot spoke to Eve instead of a serpent??
by jam inwould that change your view on the account???
that's.
plausible.. .
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GreenhornChristian
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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GreenhornChristian
It came up first place when I typed Jehovah Witness
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