Posts by gingerbread

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CANDACE CONTI & THE NEW CONTRIBUTION DEMAND

by The Searcher in

when the org lost the candace conti case, the court ordered (pending the appeal) that the org would have to deposit several million$ as security.

the puzzling thing is, the org got a bond company to put up the millions, thereby incurring heavy interest charges.

i've always wondered, 'why?????????'.

gingerbread

In this particular case the WT lawyers tried to put the Patterson Educational complex up as surety. The California court accepted the argument (Conti's attorney) that real estate is too unstable to be considered a safe surety bond - and it was in New York and if there was a future issue about the appeal the laws in two different states could cause problems.

So, WT found a bonding company (in Chicago I think) that posted the surety - for the amount awarded in favor of Candace. The WT must pay a monthly fee to keep this bond.

I think that the WT knows that they are going to lose this case (among others around the world) and are going to have to pay up. The WT is preparing all JW's for the worst outcome - and outlay of millions of dollars.

Recall the recent WT warning about everyone being ready to do things that are not practical or 'strategic from a human standpoint'.

ginger

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Essay by Barbara Anderson: "What's in a Name?"

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

whats in a name?

posted on april 15, 2014 by barbara anderson http://watchtowerdocuments.org/whats-in-a-name/ .entry-meta-icons .entry-meta .

.entry-header one morning at bethel in 1989, after the usual text discussion before breakfast, there was an announcement to the staff about the legalization of jehovahs witnesses in poland.

gingerbread

Thank you for sharing your insights Barbara.

Always - - ginger

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This years Memorial talk outline

by gingerbread in

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friends

perhaps i've missed seeing it.... can anyone provide a scan or link to the 2014 memorial talk and the following sunday's public 'special talk'?.

ginger.

gingerbread

Actually it was changed again last year.

I was wondering if it was adjusted since the 'new light' about the Faithful and Descreet Seven ...

ginger

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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends

by AMNESIANO in

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anyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.

gingerbread

Your patience is commendable AMNESIAN.

Hopefully it will work as well as it has for our family!

ginger

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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends

by AMNESIANO in

jw
friends

anyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.

gingerbread

AMNESIAN - will your own husband be attending the Memorial again this year?

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This years Memorial talk outline

by gingerbread in

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friends

perhaps i've missed seeing it.... can anyone provide a scan or link to the 2014 memorial talk and the following sunday's public 'special talk'?.

ginger.

gingerbread

Bump.

Anyone ??

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Is it normal to feel you have betrayed your spouse when you learn TTATT?

by BU2B in

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friends

i am trying to look at it from a believing mates perspective.

they married you as a jw expecting you to continue as one.

if you have kids, she enjoyed the stability of both spouses being united.. when you learn ttatt, you find out the wt is a dangerous mind control group and lies to its members and is hypocritical.

gingerbread

Once you accept the fact that the 'Governing Body' members are not being used by Jesus, are not anointed with a future as heavenly kings/judges and that the organizations beliefs are based on fallacious premises and distorted conjecture, you'll feel betrayed by the Watchtower Society.

You then realize that you no longer answer to them - you don't have to and you won't.

Your lives are in your hands. And that's a good thing!

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Watchtower cover models

by Laika in

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friends

the jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?

have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?

.

gingerbread

I haven't thought about this in years...

A sister was featured - with photos - in an Awake a few years ago. My brother 'dated' her when they were in their late teens. One night - past midnight - I had the mistaken opportunity to catch sight of them on the deck outside. She was topless...and they were real.

What a FINE example!

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Anyone going to the memorial this year?

by Pyramid God in

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i was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.

anyone else?.

gingerbread

We will. The kids aren't. Going to sit with the in-laws. We haven't walked into the hall for a few months. And Mr. Ginger has a beard.

Should be interesting....

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Gerritt Loesch life story .... Total hypocrisy

by Skinnedsheep in

as written in the july 15 2014 wt.

what gerrit used to believe and teach.... the roman catholic teaching of apostolic succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of popes in a line extending all the way back to the apostle peter.

(the church misinterprets jesus words that are quoted at matthew 16:18, 19.

gingerbread

I just finished reading this article on JW.org.

What a grand delusion he weaves - and believes. It's the age old JW story of a single 'worldly' guy who hears the 'truth' and decides to devote his whole life to the organization.

How many times have we heard the stories of sleeping with out any heat, trudging through snow at night to use the outhouse, relying on the 'brothers' to support you - all sacrifices in order to pioneer. If you tell a line of b.s. enough, you'll eventually believe it.

The comment that he didn't take a taxi to the brother's home - where he'd be staying while 'serving' the congregation - and walked instead because he didn't want to appear uppity ... I think I just gagged a little.

I'm suprised his arm isn't broken ... after patting himself on the back so much!

ginger