Posts by TweetieBird

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Confessing to the elders...

by tan in

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has anyone ever had to confess their sins to the elders...left out some of the details or "other gross" sins...but wondered if you were truly forgiven of your sins?

or was reproved and given back your priviledges but knew that you didn't tell everything.

how did you feel afterward?

I have a male relative that was recently reproved after getting caught with a married sister. He went into the back room and fessed up to that wrongdoing, leaving out the dozens of other women he's banged over the last few years. He feels that Jehovah has forgiven him for all of the wrongs even though he only confessed to one of them. He felt that if Jehovah wanted them to know about it, it would have come out, hence, his conscience is clean and now he is trying to stay on the straight and narrow. I give it 6 months.

What I really find disturbing is that he genuinely believes that JW's have the truth. How he can justify committing fornication is beyond me.

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Judical Committee/ Plea for Reinstatement help

by livingalie in

hello to all it has been awhile since my last post but i have been lurking .i just wanted to be careful since i have been trying to be reinstated.

to give you a little background in short after i left bethel (1993-1999) in 1999 i got married to a local sister from new york city ( brooklyn).i worked at different jobs but the last job i had was with the city of ny after 9/11 i lost the job .i told my wife about a job down south ,i told her that i would go down try the job out and if it looks like a good fit and it would work out she should move down in a few months .the job was going great things were looking up i told her to moved down but she hated the town said it was to small nothing to do but the great thing about it was that her job was in the town also all she would have to do was just transfer no job hunting at all .

my wife would not move this went on for the next 2 years she said she was coming down then she said she need to finish up something at work .

TweetieBird

My heart goes out to you. Its obvious that you want to get reinstated so that you can have a relationship with your mom and dad and siblings. Do you want to get back with your wife? Like others have said, you have to play their game, unfortunately. Someone else suggested that you write your wife letters, make every attempt to reconcile. Either she will agree or she will tell you it's completely over. At that point, you can tell the elders that you've tried everything possible to make it right, but that she can't and won't forgive you. For your sake, you should hope that she doesn't forgive you because if you do end up getting back together, she will probably never let you forget it. I will tell you this, the family thing is over-rated. I have siblings that are still in but it wouldn't really bother me to be disfellowshipped at this point. But, that's just me. My parents (dead now) would have never disowned me, no matter what. My inlaws would but I don't live near them anyway. The freedom I feel right now is far superior to the relationship I have with my believing JW family. I'm a fader and the family doesn't know but I'm sure the day will come when they find out. I'm ready for it. I have a loving husband and children (only 1 a JW but quit going to meetings recently) That is the only family I need. I hope you find some happiness. I hope you find someone that will love you unconditionally because most JW's can only give you love that is conditional.

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Please rescue me! I just got hit with a JW Mac Truck!

by truthsearcher in

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oh my, i just had a visit from a jw who proceeded to, for an hour and half, try and cover every doctrine in the book, jump from scripture to scripture, half the time i was so confused about what was being said.

the other witness barely got a word in edgewise.

i quickly realized that there was going to be no discussion--it was sit and listen and try and look intelligent.

TweetieBird

Jourles...that was too funny! I have got to get me one of those.

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Wanted to share, I helped my brother

by rassillon in

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i will try to make this short.

my brother has been dfed for about 17 years with a one year respit in the middle.

my family has never been the kind that just totally cuts off dfed family members.

TweetieBird

So happy for you. When I started to fade, I confided in my older brother (who had left years before) that I was having doubts. It was such a relief to be able to talk to someone about my feelings. I'm glad you two are reconnecting.

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What state are you from?

by Junction-Guy in

this is for the us crowd, what state do you live in?

or from?----i live in tennessee, but from ohio and kentucky.

TweetieBird

The most southern part of Southern California and love it. I'm with youevetteto.

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How do you make friends once leaving the Borg?

by unhappy in

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friends

so i'm starting the fading out now, and i'm avoiding all kh 'friends,' but am finding it a bit lonely, as was raised in org, and was always taught to shun worldly people even at school.

does anyone have any advice or experiences about how to overcome this?

how they met and made new friends in the beginning?

TweetieBird

You might try www.craigslist.com if they have it in your area. There is a section under personals, strictly platonic. You can then search under w4w or m4m, whatever you are looking for. There are a lot of people out there that have just as much trouble making new friends (the older you get the harder it becomes IMHO). Anyway, there are people who have just moved to a new area and are in need of friendships just like you. I actually made friends with someone that way and we get together a couple of times a month for drinks or dinner and discuss whatever. I told her how I was raised a JW and that life outside can be difficult to adjust to at first, but it does get a lot easier. I have also met other friends through her so my circle is getting a lot bigger.

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The truth about the donation arrangement

by Wolfgirl in

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i never knew this...just found it today.

made me giggle.. payment of sales tax on literatureon 17 january1990 the u.s. supreme court made a ruling that sales tax must be paid on religious literature.

the following month, a letter from the watchtower society went out to all congregations stating that there would no longer be a set price for literature but that they would be given to the public on a donation basis.

TweetieBird

Thanks, Mary for coming to my defense. The bottom line for me as far as the Jimmy Swaggert, donation and the UN thing is this...for an organization that is suppose to be Jehovah's organization led by holy spirit, they seem to be NOT relying on that holy spirit to take care of things. Why now allow Jehovah's holy spirit to take care of things?

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BANKRUPTCIES AND FORECLOSURES IN THE US

by juni in

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bankruptcies and foreclosures on homes are on the rise - 200% higher over last year.

some are due to people falling on hard times, but the majority are due to over spending.. this affects all of us.. juni .

TweetieBird

Another problem that I have noticed (and I work for a mortgage company) is that a lot of fly-by-night mortgage brokers talked their clients into neg-am loans (generally a start rate of 1% for the 1st year and then it adjusts after that). What's happened here in Southern California is that people bought houses that were way too expensive for them due to the 1% rate and now it is adjusting and they can't afford the payments. Because the price of houses here are expensive to start with, you are looking at about a $3,000 to $4000 monthly payment and they can't afford it anymore. We have several clients that bought a ton of investment properties with neg-am loans and the payments are double what they can get for rent now.

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