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  Late for meeting ;-)

  by jw07 in

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  2. humour

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbqm2ytqhy4.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBqM2ytqHY4
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  What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.

  i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.

  i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.

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  My first experience with 'apostacy' was reading a box of old Watchtower literature (old light) as a young teen. Stuff from the 1950's and 1960's. I read what seemed interesting at first, and what I eventually realised was absurb in comparison to what 'we' now believed. Funnily enough what had the most impact was reading the Awake magazine containing 'advice' not to go to university because the end WOULD come BEFORE the time taken to complete a degree set off warning flags. I started wondering if 'we' still believed that, if it was really that bad, couldn't you do both (study and pioneer)? And shouldn't the matter be someone's personaly choice? I started taking everything with a grain of salt since thing, and more and more I began to realise that the reality of millions of people were being manipulated by a printing company in New York.
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  Ask him:

  Why did he choose Raiden as his name? Doesn't he know that it is a 'demonic' character?

  http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/raiden-bg1.jpg

  Doesn't Raiden make Jehovah sad?

  WHY are you making Jehovah sad by commenting on so many 'apostate' videos?

  Would the 8 men currently behind the organization feel comfortable about you finding out information about them independently on the internet?

  Do the elders know you are visiting these videos?

  What is his objective by responding to all these videos, is he counting field circus time?
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  2013 NWT Bible Covers on 'Ministry Ideaz' Website

  by jw07 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who the hell runs the 'ministry ideaz' website?

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  http://www.ministryideaz.com/new-world-translation-covers-s/1841.htm.

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  Who the hell runs the 'Ministry Ideaz' website? They are clever at scamming JWs out of their money riding the wave of Watchtower propaganda.

  http://www.ministryideaz.com/New-World-Translation-covers-s/1841.htm
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  Why the need for a new font?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so with everything else being dissected, i want to know why it's important to have a font that can be copyrighted?.

  the font used is very similar to a number of others, like tahoma, ms sans serif, and arial etc, so what benefit is there to employing (in the loose sense of the word) a team in japan to create a brand new western set of glyphs?.

  will this help with their prosecution of those who copy/paste nnwt verses?.

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  It's part of a larger straw man argument. Another distraction to talk about. When the fonts for the Watchtower were changed some years ago NO mention was made about it! It's just part of their larger "Oh look, we did SO MUCH FOR YOU!" argument.
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  What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.

  example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.

  so i ask , is it an iq level ?

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  I think it has more to do with how easily manipulated a person's emotions are. I know allot of witnesses who I would consider very intelligent, and a few I consider geniuses. They are able to function well in their fields ranging from engineering to the medical field. HOWEVER, they still do mental gymnastics to prove the 'truth' to themselves and others, saying and doing illogical things that their belief system requires. Believing illogical things like the earth being only 6000+ years old, and that 8 men in New York are God's direct channel to direct his servants because THEY KEEP SAYING THAT THEY ARE.

  It is more of a set of factors which can be classed as delusions / emotional illness:

  1. Getting duped into believing that they COULD never die.

  2. Being afraid to admit that they were duped.

  3. Being convinced that anyone who does not believe what they believe must be 'mentally diseased', possessed, not appreciative of life.

  4. Being duped that all wickedness will magically disappear.

  5. Being duped into believing that their failing bodies will magically become 'perfect' without exercise or diet if they just listen to a set of old men in New York and help spread their propaganda to others.

  6. Being duped into believing printed paper (Watchtowers, Awakes, other literature) has worth far beyond anything imaginable. The same way people are deluded into believing they should kill and prostitute for money. Which is just paper which some people have been conditioned to value beyond their personal value.

  It's an emotional complex in my opinion. Feelings have the power to over-ride logic.
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  JW.org keyword is effective tool ;-)

  by jw07 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  based on my personal experience adding 'jw.org' to online posts (especially youtube videos) seems to have a good effect with regards to spreading ttatt to not so tech savvy jws.

  i was at an elder's house last week when he stumbled on to 'jehovah's witnesses new light on f&ds.

  jw.org' by brad zook.

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  Based on my personal experience adding 'jw.org' to online posts (especially Youtube videos) seems to have a good effect with regards to spreading TTATT to not so tech savvy JWs. I was at an elder's house last week when he stumbled on to 'Jehovah's Witnesses New Light on F&DS. JW.org' by Brad Zook. It took him a while to realise it was not an 'official video'.

  I checked his history later, and he also probably watched 'Watchtower REMOVES "Trinity" Booklet---ONLINE!' by theSnarkyApologist. His history had lots of searches for 'jw.org', 'jw.org login', 'jw.org site'. Keep it up.
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  What to be for Holloween

  by Found Sheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  two years ago i was an angel, last year a cat.

  i am working that day so i need to be "modest".

  yes they let us dress up it's kind of fun.

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  Be Joseph Rutherford
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  How Happy Are the Governing Body About Increasing Their Control on the Flock?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. social
  2. humour

  well, it's wednesday of the annual meeting week.

  most jw's in english congregations just know they get out of the mid-week meetings but gotta suffer for several hours this coming saturday, as nice weather is escaping into autumn.. i couldn't find the clip that ends short of the two guys asking "how happy are...?

  " so we just have to replace it with this title:.

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  I agree 100% with Cofty.
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  Annual Meeting Instructions to MS / Elders

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have any elders or ministerial servants here recieved any specific instructions regarding the annual meeting?

  as an ms all i have been told to do is to arrive early to "await further instruction due to the sensitive nature of my assignment".

  ironically all i can imagine after hearing that a few times is dispensing cyanide laced kool aid to attendees.

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  jw07

  My MONEY is on a 'updated bible'....my MONEY is also on alert to be hidden at the slightest grab at it by the Watchtower Corporation.