Posts by TerryWalstrom

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I questioned some Mormons today

by joe134cd in

as a result of my fading from the jw religion, i have taken an interest in the mormon religion.

personally i think mormonisim is a bigger con than the jw religion.

with all knowledge i've been acquiring, i was interested to find out what the followers of the mormon religion knew about the churches history.

TerryWalstrom

Our life is the time we spend doing something.

The quality of our life is determined by how actively we improve things.

A good life, well-lived is the goal--in the long run.

It stands to reason, wasting our time amounts to wasting opportunities to make our actions count.

Religions, especially cults, remove your autonomy and replace it with what appears to be a bargain. What is the bargain? You are offered transcendence; which is to say: more than you could possibly achieve 'on your own.' Everlasting life is one such phony bargain.

You waste your time going through the rituals of a religion chasing illusory transcendence with superficial 'friends' and you'll find yourself an old man one day, out of time, who really accomplished NOTHING. Why?

Because you've traded all the genuinely good things for the phony castles-in-the-air.

The 'brotherhood' is an empty thing, indeed. Your brothers and your sisters will ONLY love you as long as you do exactly what they tell you to do. If you have any ideas of your own--what happens to you?

So, it all comes down to this:

Live a real life doing good by serving your fellow man in a practical and pragmatic way. . .

or

Live a fantasy life which looks lovely and is, in fact meaningless.

Mormons are highly indoctrinated paper dolls.

If you thought believing the Bible was difficult, just wait until you get into the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price!

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Feb Kingdom Ministry 2015: Irate Householders - why so angry?

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

feb kingdom ministry 2015, irate householders, "we don't apologize for our work", "did they hear rumors about jws"?

why so angry?

blood or disfellowshipping?.

TerryWalstrom

The Theocratic Ministry School, back in the old days (i.e. 50's and 60's until the rush toward 1975) was built around this self-same strategy.

What this amounts to is CUSTOMER SERVICE; absorbing and softening the brunt of the objections by allowing the complainant to be "heard." Except, in this instance, no provision is made for any such complaint to be viewed as VALID!

Notice how it is assumed in advance the foundation of any such objection will not have any basis in fact.

What all this amounts to is INDOCTRINATION.

How?

By training the Brothers and Sisters to view objections as a PROCESS instead of a two-way communication or a seeking-after-fact, conditioning takes place insidiously!

Intellectual Honesty: The willingness to be wrong when the evidence goes against your deeply-held beliefs.

The Kingdom Ministry methodology is shadow-boxing by feinting when the punch is thrown and counter-punching with a pre-determined conditioned reflex.

AUTOMATICALLY assuming error on the part of a householder short-circuits the intellectual assessments of the JW in advance.

Objections are emptied of 'content' as to 'fact.'

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ever read this?

by sowhatnow in

i got an offer in the mail for mother earth magazine.. anyone like it?

im not sure if im a liberal or not, i think its a liberal based format.

its not all political, sort of like a shortened readers digest?

TerryWalstrom

A quick way to determine if you are Liberal or not. . .

Answer the following hypothetical question:

"If suddenly everybody in the world were miraculously given the same access to education, the same income, the same relative strengths and weaknesses as everybody else--BUT--kept the same personality they have now, in 10 years time DO YOU THINK society would be more or less equal than it is now?"

The reason I say this is a good test of Liberalism is because a professional poker player explained

something to me. He plays in World Series of Poker matches every year. He told me the buy in was the same

for everybody, but it didn't matter.

"Why?" I innocently asked.

"Because there are only two kinds of players: winners and losers. Winners take the trouble to learn and losers

depend on luck."

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EXCERPT from the JW science fiction novel: THE MONORAILS OF MARS

by TerryWalstrom in

here is an excerpt from my jw sci-fi novel, the monorails of mars.

'holy trinity' .

jack clayton stood next to louiseboyd scanning the room the way a lighthouse beam penetrates fog.

TerryWalstrom

Hey Smiddy!

I actually had a vivid dream the other night that Speilberg contacted me through his attorney to secure the rights

to make The Monorails of Mars into a film!

When I woke up I was so excited my heart was pounding in my chest.

It took me about a minute and a half to realize the delusion!

Not so happy!

I think, from now on, I'm going to release AUDIO versions of my books.

AUDIO BOOKS are very convenient.

I listen to books as I ride my bicycle. Now I can 'read' a new book every three days!

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Site issues: Jan 02 Update (Sign In)

by Simon in

i've deployed a fix for people affected by sign-in issues caused by having multiple accounts associated with the same email address.

here's how to activate the fix:.

you must attempt to sign in using the email address associated with your account (not a username) and must have access to that mailbox.. if there are multiple accounts associated with the email address then you will be shown a warning message with the option to have an email sent to repair your account.. the email will contain a link to a page showing all the accounts associated with the same email address and allow you to select the one you want to be active (it will disassociate all the other accounts from the email address).. once you have completed the process then you should be able to sign in as normal.

TerryWalstrom

SIMON,

I tried logging in for days using the old e-mail and password.

When I filled everything in the page reset AS THOUGH I hadn't done anything.

So, I tried created a NEW account. After a couple of days (and tries) I was able to get in.

I would prefer to have my old account again (Terry) and not the 'new' account (TerryEdwinWalstrom).

How do I accomplish this?

Thank you!

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NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

this is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?

the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.

i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?

TerryWalstrom

Ask yourself "Exactly WHAT is this trying to tell us?"

From the most reliable investigations of Bible chronology, (...) we find that Adam was created in the autumn of the year 4026 B.C.E. Sometime in that same year Eve could well have been created, directly after which God's rest day commenced. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of God's rest day come to an end? The year 1975. (Awake! October 8, 1966, p. 19);

Since it was also Jehovah‟s purpose for man to multiply and fill the earth, it is logical that he would create Eve soon after Adam, perhaps just a few weeks or months later in the same year, 4026 B.C.E. After her creation, God‟s rest day, the seventh period, immediately followed. (The Watchtower May 1, 1968, p. 271);

Eve‟s creation was quickly accomplished, „while Adam was sleeping.‟ (Gen. 2:21) (The Watchtower August 15, 1968, p. 500);

According to reliable Bible chronology, Adam and Eve were created in 4026 B.C.E. (Awake! October 8, 1968, p. 14). See also The Watchtower July 15, 1967, p. 446.

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Is it not clear? Going IN and TOWARD 1975, Freddy Franz wanted to stack the conjectures up IN FAVOR of

his predictions.

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What happened when 1975 failed?

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Compare now these statements to the above.

How much time elapsed between the creation of the man and that of the woman? The Bible does not reveal this. (The Watchtower July 15, 1976, p. 436);

What, then, does this mean? Simply this: That these factors, and the possibilities for which they allow, prevent us from saying with any positiveness how much time elapsed between Adam‟s creation and that of the first woman. We do not know whether it was a brief time such as a month or a few months, a year or even more. (The Watchtower July 15, 1976, p. 437).

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That is a laugh! They certainly were NOT prevented from saying with 'positiveness.' What a wacky word!

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What do we learn from this?

The BASIS for making bold statements about dates--in the mind of millions of JW's is what?

The Governing Body is SUPPOSED to be CHANNELING 'Truth' by Jehovah's holy spirit. Right?

The GB seem to believe this nonsense themselves right up and until it FLOPS!

Suddenly they pretend nobody should jump to conclusion because the Bible doesn't SAY blah blah blah.

HOW COULD THEY HAVE MISSED IT?

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Some facts about CT Russel

by zebagain in

some facts and more facts about charles taze russel.

one thing that came out of this for me was that he admitted in a court to having minimal education.

this taken down the years might explain the wts angst toward education.

TerryWalstrom

Russell was a momma's boy who lost his momma when he was about nine years old.

Until his mother passed, the family were Scottish Presbyterians. After her death, they defected to Congregational church.

His father took over rearing him and grooming him for the haberdashery business. Private tutors

were hired and Russell's education was substantially more practical than most boys his age.

When Russell met and married Maria (Moe-rye-uh), her superb skills honed Russell's grammar and punctuation.

Russell was a glorious amateur admired for his eclecticism in a naive age by people prone toward bedazzlement. What C.T. Russell offered was the confidence of a supremely educated man of god. Let us not forget, however, it was MARIA who actually invented the famous Faithful and Wise Servant interpretation!

This proved invaluable and has never been abandoned by the WTS leaders. Of course, each subsequent President has shaped and interpreted this crazy doctrine to suit their own purposes.

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The spirituality of science

by Coded Logic in

things are often more than the sum of their parts.

the letters typed onto this page, for example, are more than just letters.

they've become a series of ideas and concepts.

TerryWalstrom

Things are often more than the sum of their parts.

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Arguably, we impose this.

A thing IS what it is. Just because we can fit contexts to it like various picture frames on a painting, does

nothing more than change our selective view. The 'painting' itself remains what it is.

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Complete and Finished

by Prefect in

complete and finished.. .

no dictionary has ever been able to satisfactorily define the difference between "complete" and "finished.

" however, during a recent linguistic conference, held in london , england , and attended by some of the best linguists in the world.

TerryWalstrom

Old Terry never misses muc--except the point :)

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

jw
friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

TerryWalstrom

As I've said many times and many ways: a mystic may not believe reality is anything but what the

mind of man convinces him of--but--the mystic always enters and leaves the room through the door and NOT the WALL!