http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.
i just watched beginning of the recently leaked video produced by the wtbts allegedly instructing elders how to treat jws contemplating suicide.
i am so apalled i cannot even begin to describe it!.
And, what the hell does "integrity" have to with severe clinical depression?
Everything? Evidently (see what I did there?) if a person is clinically depressed that would quite likely (I did it again) be a sure sign that they were not "integrity" keepers and more likely than not had committed some secret sin. In all probability (I just can't help myself) the sin is even a secret from the depressed person, and can only be discerned with the loving aid and interrogation provided by the eldurrs.
i saw this at the kingdom hall after the meeting.
"advertise, advertise, advertise!- christendom style".
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Their are too many people hurt by the policys of jw`s to walk by a car that promotes them and not be tempted to scratch the paintwork with a coin or whatever .I know I would.
I can gaurandamntee that no matter what my personal feelings are toward jw's, IF it were any vehicle of mine that I happened to catch ANYONE vandalizing for any reason (and NO there is no way I would have a goofy jw sticker) they would not be moving under their own power for quite some time! They wouldn't need to worry about going to Hell because I would have beat it out of them!
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.
i just watched beginning of the recently leaked video produced by the wtbts allegedly instructing elders how to treat jws contemplating suicide.
i am so apalled i cannot even begin to describe it!.
Just like to point out that the first part of the video was what you are NOT supposed to do (go alone into back room with sister, touch sister's hand, tell them suicide is murder etc).
Perhaps she needed some additional "attention" and the eldurr was going to try to take advantage of her weakened emotional state to provide that "attention"? That's what they do with "worldly" people who are having troubles whom they meet in field serve us.
i know this has been rehashed, time and again, but i saw this interesting blip on jw.org last night, and did a little thinking about it.... jw.
org answers the important question that so many have... are jehovah's witnesses a cult?.
jehovah's witnesses do not look to any human as their leader.
JW. org: "No, we are not a cult. We do not look to any human as our leader."
They are right of course. In true jw speak they do not look to any human as their leader. They look to eight imperfect humans as their leaders.
See how easy that was to justify their statement?
as a little background - i was born-in to being a witness, back in '79, in detroit, in mostly black and poor congregations.
baptized when 10-ish, stayed around, was on the fast track to ms, but faded when i moved out at 24ish.. there was a combination of a few things that got me on the road to "freedom" from the cognitive dissonance that kept me "in the truth" for so long.
the main thing was, being an artist and studying marketing, my thinking was patterned to constantly question if i was doing something "correctly," as constant improvement and questioning is what facilitates artistic and mental growth.
I have worn a moustache for the better part of five decades. A circuit oversneer told me I had to trim it shorter so that it wouldn't be longer than the corner of my mouth. I have worn it shaped down nearly to my jaw. His reason was that I looked, "to much like the Malboro man." And of course we wouldn't, "want to influence young men in the congregation to wear that style moustache." I still have it as it has always been. It really tweaks the opinions of the eldurrs when I refuse to follow human decrees.
so during the serve-us meeting last night an elder says something really dumb..as usual.
it was the km part about doing better in field serve-us.
they are discussing how to reach people, and how to be nice, blah, blah.. the eldub says, "we want to be kind to our neighbors, and talk to them and take an interest.
I guess JWs are supposed to 'act' like friends, but not actually BE friends. How Christian!!!
And we all know what the terms are for someone who acts one way, but are in reality something else entirely...HYPOCRITES, and LIARS!
so during the serve-us meeting last night an elder says something really dumb..as usual.
it was the km part about doing better in field serve-us.
they are discussing how to reach people, and how to be nice, blah, blah.. the eldub says, "we want to be kind to our neighbors, and talk to them and take an interest.
1 a : one attached to another by affection or esteem Well that leaves out 99% of the jw's at my local KH. There isn't a one of them that demonstrates even a minimum amount of esteem for me personally. That is why I delight in attending...just to piss them off by my presence.
so i happened to peruse jw.org this morning.
considering the rabid way that the jw's are shamelessly promoting a web site i found it telling that when i, out of curiousity, clicked on the "request a home bible study" link i got this meesage:.
request a free bible studywould you like to learn more about the bible?
So I happened to peruse jw.org this morning. Considering the rabid way that the jw's are shamelessly promoting a web site I found it telling that when I, out of curiousity, clicked on the "request a home Bible study" link I got this meesage:
Would you like to learn more about the Bible? If so, take advantage of our free home Bible study course. Request a Bible study by completing the form below.
And guess what? The form below was a BLANK PAGE! I guess that is pretty accurate though...most of what has been trotted out recently is nothiing, no content, BLANK!
Also, I see that the "contact us" email link they provide is totally useless. All it will do is open the default email program with no address. One must fumble about in the dark, trying to guess what address might get an email delivered. Nothiing like being led by a blind guide!!
we all know that elders and ministerials are appointed by holy spirit.
i was in the organization for about 25 years and was in 4 different congregations over the years.. in one congregration there was a sister in her mid-50's with an unbelieving husband.
he did not attend meetings.
I can verify that everything written above is true.
Where I live the main qualifications are: 1). Being related to an already appointed elder. 2). Having been studied with by an elder. 3). A mans chances are directly proportional to the size of the "contributions" he makes to the KH plus the cash he "gifts" to already appointed elders. 4). Of course the field serve us is a big thing too. Counting time is much more important that making time count!
Some things that will automatically get a man disqualified: 1). Taking time to help elderly or handicapped members of the congregation without trumpeting your good deeds. 2). Using ones time to better your financial outlook. For example having a savings account or cash on hand for emergencies. That's not trusting Jehovah, y'know?
Argh...I have to quit. I'm getting ill just thinking about the lack of Bible based decisions by elders, at all levels!
last week's service meeting had brought out the experience in the 2013 yb about sharing their lunch with someone in the audience, who didn'y have anything.
although i beleive this to be a good idea, but, i couldn't help but think how things had changed.
the society wasn't playing by that same principle of hospitality, when they had the food arrangement at the assemblies.
Using only one square of toilet paper per person isn't all THAT hard.
I remember being shown how to many (or is that some) years ago when I was still just a pup.
You take the one square, fold it in half, then fold it in half again. Then you carefully tear the pointed corner off, which leaves a nice round hole in the middle of the square. You insert your middle finger through the hole, wipe your ass, then carefully fold and pull the toilet paper off your finger removing the shit as you do. See...EASY!
(BTW...THAT is a JOKE!)
