Posts by Rattigan350

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More speculation on Kingdom Hall closers and money grabbing?

by Crazyguy in

there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.

the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.

my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?

Rattigan350

This is no speculation. Back in the late 90s I had a list of the congregations of the state I was from. There were 350 congregations in 230 Kingdom Halls.

I compared that list to what is currently listed on Jw.org.

There have been about 36 congregation and KH deleted.

4 congregations deleted from multiples congs per KH.

One city had 3 congs in one KH and 2 in another now there is 4 in one KH.

There are 4 congregations that remained in intact but they sold their KH and are going to a more distant KH.

The major metropolitan city had roughly 23 Kingdom Halls then that don't exist now and 6 that exist now but not today. I can't guess exactly how the congregations were moved, or created or deleted with all that.

Some new congregations were created but they were foreign language.

Today I get 304 congregations in 169 KH total so a net loss of 50 congregations and 61 KH in the state over the past 20 years.

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The phrase "one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

by Ding in

jws don't say, "i am a jehovah's witness.".

instead, they say, "i am one of jehovah's witnesses.".

what does the second way of saying it convey that the first does not?.

Rattigan350

Carla said "I don't anybody that considers jw's as 'Chrisitan'."

In theory they are supposed to be but in action they are more pharisee

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Be Bold Circult assembly

by Rattigan350 in

at the 2018-2019 be bold circult assembly yesterday.

yes, curcult, change the i to an l. because when they have 2 demonstrations about youths not going to university and another talk says for adults at work to be bold and refuse birthday treats being given away, it shows so much pettiness and lack of real concern for the people.. i was actually looking forward to the ca because a week before tornadoes went through our circuit and passed 2 miles by a kingdom hall and less than 1 mile by another that had meetings that afternoon.

i was expecting the circult overseer to give a report on it.

Rattigan350

At the 2018-2019 Be Bold Circult assembly yesterday. Yes, curcult, change the I to an L. Because when they have 2 demonstrations about youths not going to University and another talk says for adults at work to Be Bold and refuse birthday treats being given away, it shows so much pettiness and lack of real concern for the people.

I was actually looking forward to the CA because a week before tornadoes went through our circuit and passed 2 miles by a Kingdom Hall and less than 1 mile by another that had meetings that afternoon. I was expecting the Circult overseer to give a report on it. But NO. Nothing was said other than the opening prayer. It was just the scripted ministry encouragement. The president of the USA came out to visit the area, but the elders didn't even reach out asking about well being nor the Circuit overseer. Many local and far away churches assisted in the disaster relief. I didn't see any Witnesses (other than me) volunteering. But if the Regional Building committee directed something, then they would be all out there. But to just help their neighbors...

Another interested part was the accounts report. There was $10,000 in expenses and those expenses were split between the maintenance and repairs of the assembly hall and for all of the assembly halls in the world. That's a new one to me. Has anyone else heard this? When they read this they had a deficiet of $4000.

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The phrase "one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

by Ding in

jws don't say, "i am a jehovah's witness.".

instead, they say, "i am one of jehovah's witnesses.".

what does the second way of saying it convey that the first does not?.

Rattigan350

I never liked the expression "I'm a Jehovah's Witness". It just does not have the flow to it.

"I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses" has always been a better way of saying Christianity is a group activity.

Though I don't know why there is a difference between "I'm a Christian" and "I'm a Jehovah's Witness".

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Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

by minimus in

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friends

i do .

for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

Rattigan350

A am neither anti-semite nor pro-semite. I am Semitism neutral. People don't know whether they are Jewish or not as the records have been lost

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Are You Horrifed if Someone Goes Into a “Massage Parlor”?

by minimus in

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friends

yesterday, robert kraft, the owner of the new england patriots, got busted for getting a massage and more.

they say there is another more high profile person who also got busted.. does this stuff upset you that some men have gone into a massage parlor for possibly more than a massage?

?.

Rattigan350

I don't get this whole 'happy ending' thing. If it is an ending, it is not happy.

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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

that means it can proceed further.

it is a first victory.

Rattigan350

Vidiot.

Nope, not a troll. I do know the TTATT.

I'm one of those that is stuck in the middle. While I don't like many things in the JWs, such as how they direct people's life outside the religion, shunning, blood, I do believe that the religion is the correct one according to the Bible. But I am against this apostate movement. That is the jumping on the bandwagon and being all AntiJW and coming up with these crazy reasons (child abuse, UN NGO things that were never taught in the religion) just because they don't like the meetings and field service. I don't like meetings and FS either but it is a religion and that is what religionists do.

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Lawsuit against the Watchtower for child abuse issue accepted in Quebec(Canada)

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).

that means it can proceed further.

it is a first victory.

Rattigan350

" Do you really think that such a person will molest a child in front a second witness?"

Do you think that such a person will molest an adult in front of a second witness?

I realize that this whole child abuse issues exists because it is easy to use against the Watchtower. So it addresses no truth in the matter. It is a red herring.

And John Prestor, I am not living under a rock. You all are.

Are you even hearing about this documentary about Michael Jackson?

Those two men previously testified that Michael did nothing wrong. Now they are saying that they were pressured to say that and MJ molested and abused them.

And you criticized the two witness rule? What do you all say about flip flopping?

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Was Russell "that" Faithful and Wise Servant?

by Sea Breeze in

"from this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of zion's watch tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that "faithful and wise servant.

" he never did claim to be such," ("god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached," 1973, p. 346).. or this?.

"thousands of the readers of pastor russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season.

Rattigan350

I don't think anyone is the FDS.

It is wrong to build a religion around one scripture.

The Catholics use Matt 16 "Upon this rock"

JWs used Matt 24:45-47.

Who is right?

I prefer to use the John 13 Followers have love among themselves.

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Perfect response

by Cerise in

jw
friends

i was hoping to get some advice on what to say to a parent who wouldn’t support you to get married to a “worldy person”.

always bringing up “marry only in the lord” even when that hasnt worked out for the parent, twice divorced lol.

is there a way to discredit that scripture or argue back respectfully without giving away that you are pimo?.

Rattigan350

Ok, Ok,. Just why do they know that the other person is not a Witness? Just tell them that he or she goes to a different congregation and get married by a judge. Unless of course the person looks weird such as wearing a beard or piercings, in which case you shouldn't be getting married to that one.