Posts by Rattigan350

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January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!

by The Fall Guy in

if the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.

in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!

(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.

Rattigan350

Matt 28:19,20 is a misinterpreted and iffy scripture.

I don't believe that Jesus said "In the name of the father, son and Holy spirit". There is no explanation of what that means or no context behind it. Jesus does not teach without an explanation.

And the Go therefore and make disciples is not a command as they elders would say.

They had just asked Jesus if he was going to restore Jerusalem to the Jews. Jesus said to not worry about it, but your job is to go and preach. As he said that he ascended to heaven. He was just directing them to focus on the heavenly kingdom and not the earthly one.

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WTS No longer "welcoming" people to Brooklyn

by blondie in

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https://www.6sqft.com/welcome-sign-will-soon-replace-the-iconic-watchtower-sign-in-brooklyn-heights/.

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Rattigan350

The Brooklyn buildings including the sign made JWs in NYC special and something to have pride in.

From the days of Russell & Rutherford to the 2000s the buildings were an icon of the organization.

But after they left, upstate New York just does not invoke the same pride.

More evidence of the organizations fade.

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How Long Did It Take To Finally Leave The Organization Once You Realized It Was Really Not The Truth?

by minimus in

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it actually took me a few years to finally leave the organization so i was mentally out for a while before i simply stopped all meetings altogether.. how long did it take you to finally make the break?

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Rattigan350

I've always believed that the Organization, WT, has the truth and it still does. But unfortunately,the Truth focuses on the organization.

To add to that: Baptism is supposed to be a lifelong thing. There are 150 questions a pair of elders go over with the candidate. Marriage is supposed to be a lifelong things. The elders do nothing to help the couple before the vows are said. No mandatory study or talking too. They only do things that focus on the organization.

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Merger aftermath

by Rattigan350 in

a couple of months ago, i reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.. on sept 1, cong b merged with cong a using the same hall, thereafter using cong a's meeting times.

also nearby cong c moved into the hall using cong b's meeting times and cong c's kh is being put up for sale.. i've since been to both sunday meetings and both midweek meetings.

at all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street.

Rattigan350

A couple of months ago, I reported on my congregation being disolved and merged with another.

On Sept 1, Cong B merged with Cong A using the same Hall, thereafter using Cong A's meeting times. Also nearby Cong C moved into the Hall using Cong B's meeting times and Cong C's KH is being put up for sale.

I've since been to both Sunday meetings and both midweek meetings. At all, the parking lot is totally full, cars have to park around the corner and on the street. The auditorium is full and now more are using both library and school rooms.

Now, there is no potential for growth. If there are 150 attending each now, that is 300 total; it would be better to have them make 3 congregation of 100. But no. Now, there is less opportunity for people to comment at each meeting with all those people there.

That is happening all over. Just to sell building, the congregations will suffer.

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Our congregation will be deleted

by Rattigan350 in

last night was the co's visit.

prior to his part, an elder had a part on following theocratic direction.

it was about our congregation being deleted (there are 2 sharing this hall) and the people and territory being divided up to the 4 other surrounding ones.. they say it is not about numbers but about making best use of resources.

Rattigan350

On Sept 1, our congregation will be dissolved and we will be with the other one at the Hall. However, we won't be the only Cong at that Hall. I found out today that a neighboring congregation in a Kingdom Hall will be going to hour Hall and their will be sold. That means that those in the other territory will have to drive farther for the meetings and another Hall is up for sale.

The fire sale goes on.

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If You Could Pick Just One Title Of A Song That Would Describe Your Life

by The Bethelite in

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what would it be?.

mine would be "rocket man" by elton john.

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Rattigan350

Lonesome loser

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Now that JWs know there is a pedophile problem...

by Zoos in

... will they take it upon themselves to warn their bible studies of pedophile activity in the congregations so they can protect their children, or will the cycle of abuse continue with the attitude of letting new ones take their chances along with the rest of us?.

Rattigan350

There is no pedophile problem.

Pedophile - one affected with pedophilia

Pedophila - sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

Just because someone did something with a child does not mean that children were the preferred sexual object. It only means that the opportunity was there to do something with that child. Very very few would prefer children.

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The results of the CSA Study article in Kingdom Halls is starting to come in.

by I believe in overlapping in

there are some jws that are calling it quits after today's watchtower study.

experiences are coming in on reddit.. here is one experience caught on video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_ndjphv1w.

here is another.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/cd2y97/wifes_done_with_wt/.

Rattigan350

She is wrong about here assessment. The Royal commission does not say JWs are the worst. And the 2 witness rule is scriptural and just.

She is lying.

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Magic

by Rattigan350 in

the april 2019 study edition page 20 has an article on resisting wicked spirits.

it says "magic refers to practices associated with the occult, or the supernatural.

it can include curses and the casting or breaking of spells.

Rattigan350

The April 2019 Study edition page 20 has an article on resisting wicked spirits.

It says "magic refers to practices associated with the occult, or the supernatural. It can include curses and the casting or breaking of spells. It does not refer to tricks using quick hand movements, which some people perform merely for entertainment."

Can you believe that people have to be told that the Bible is not against slight of hand magic tricks as if they believe demons are behind that.

Maybe back in the Bible days, people did all that stuff. Who knows. But magic is not real now.

Just another one of those articles that create and foster superstition and fear among the people.

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Jehovahs Witnesses Raking In Real Estate Dough.

by koolaid-man in

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they are making so much money ... they are stacking and bailing it!http://www.observer.com./2012/02/jehovahs-witnesses-raking-in-real-estate-dough/jehovahs witnesses raking in real estate doughby elise knutsen 2/13 4:11pm.

165 columbia heights.

whether its armageddon or soaring property values, the jehovahs witnesses have decided to get the hell out of brooklyn, and they are one property closer to cutting all earthly ties to their home of a century.

Rattigan350

A transaction from yesterday. Looks like they sold a farm for half a million.

http://www.morningjournalnews.com/news/local-news/2019/06/real-estate-134/

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to WTJ Landholdings, farm buildings and 85 acres on Kelly Park Road; $525,000.

Kelly Park Road, Lisbon OH

https://ohiodb.com/company/2057888/wtj-land-holdings-llc

Wtj Land Holdings, Llc Description

Wtj Land Holdings, Llc is a Domestic Limited Liability Company. Company Number assigned to this company is 2057888.
Company Agent of Wtj Land Holdings, Llc is JOHN G. GROSS. This agent address is 44572 Metz Road Columbiana,Oh 44408.
Wtj Land Holdings, Llc was incorporated on Wednesday 26th October 2011, so this company age is seven years, seven months and nineteen days. This business status is currently Active.
Company has one director: John G. Gross.