That's what I've always said. Jesus never told us, 20th century people, to keep doing that. He only told the 11 that were with him to do that in remembrance of him. We can't remember someone we have never met. We only read stories of him. So to remember him, we just reread the stories. And anyone can have bread and wine anytime of the night at home.
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2020 Memorial - No Need To Actually Have The Emblems
by pale.emperor inover at jw talk they're saying because they're having to hold the upcoming memorial at home, they dont need to actually have the emblems.
apparently, listening to or watching the talk is the thing that counts.. "do this in rememberence of me" apparently means watching tony morris on your phone give a talk.. this begs the question... "what's the point?
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Jehovah's Witnesses DENY the Physical Bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ
by JW Answers inthe jehovah's witnesses are taught by their organisation that christ's body was disposed by jehovah god, they deny the physical bodily resurrection and explain that he rose again as a spirit creature.
as we take into account what the watchtower teach, i explain from the bible that christ rose again from the grave in his body, and showing forth that the jehovah's witnesses are in error.
in this video i cover:
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Rattigan350
Yes, this is nothing new.
Jesus was not resurrected in his body. That was a sacrifice. If he were resurrected in it, the sacrifice would not be one.
And he did not ascend in a physical body otherwise what would he breath, or eat. How could he see or hear.
He was a spirit before he became a man. He was a man until he died. He was no longer a man after he was resurrected and returned to what he was prior.
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What Makes. Person A Pedophile?
by minimus init seems the news always has another report of a pedo stalking children or hurting them.
i know this has gone on forever but i read another report of an illegal alien with a history of abuse taking advantage of another poor child.. i just don’t understand why some people do this.
is there an actual brain abnormality?
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Rattigan350
A pedophile is someone that prefers children.
No one prefers children.
But actions with children happen because children are easier to manipulate than adults.
So logic dictates that the solution is for adults to make themselves available and children would be the less attractive choice.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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All fake news..
Microsoft and Symantec and McAfee have been silent on this, so it is not a real threat.
And the body was designed to fix itself. Let it.
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The Watchtower is now saying to listen to the advice of the United Nations
by Listener inthe watchtower has posted a news item on the coronavirus on their website and officially endorces the advice of who, the world health organization which is described by wikipedia as -.
the world health organization (who) is a specialised agency of the united nations that is concerned with world public health.
it was established on 7 april 1948, and is headquartered in geneva, switzerland.
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Rattigan350
So what of it?
Why do you complain about the UN?
The Watchtower has merely stated that the UN is the beast of revelation that is a combination of all nations and that it will be destroyed.
That does not make it any more evil than the nations themselves are. The nations are made up of people and have departments and do functions. Same with the UN.
So leave the UN alone. Stop attacking the Watchtower with an issue you do not understand.
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Only One Destiny for All Christians
by cofty inthe following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
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Why do people keep arguing against the 144,000 in heaven? It is very clearly in the Bible that Israel was Jehovah's people for a purpose. Thus the 144,000 spiritual Israelites would serve that purpose in heaven. Arguing against that can't change because the whole laws and temple was about that. Not going to heaven is not a bad thing.
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Where is the best comprehensive NWT error list?
by Jake101 inhi.
while there are many excellent web sites that explain a few jw nwt bible translation problems, are there any comprehensive lists of nwt scripture errors online please?.
thanks .
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Rattigan350
There are none. You must remember that theologically the NWT and JWs are correct.
The problem with JWs is not their theology, it is their control and their being cult-like.
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Jesus said Truly I tell you This Day...
by JohnTron72 inadam was told not to eat from the tree of knowledge for upon the very day of eating from it, he would die.
i had someone say that god lied because, adam didn't die that day but, the scriptures say to god a day is as a thousand years so, since adam lived 900+ years after eating , he indeed died within god's view of a day.
methuselah the oldest to ever live 969 years still within god's set time of a day.
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I think the answer can Only be he was telling the man on THAT day, he would see him again in the restored paradise.
You are correct because Jesus was dead and out of existence from Nisan 14-16. He was in hell but not burning. He was resurrected on the 3rd day. That man was still dead because no resurrection took place until 1918.
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Help please
by jhine inhi , would someone help me please with some info about the nwt .
during my study time l have been reading john 1:1-14 and colossians 1:15-17 .
both these passages indicate that jesus was not created as the wt asserts .
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" if the NWT changes these verses to alter the meaning"
The only one who knows the meaning of those verses is the writer, the apostle John.
The fact that there are disputes about how they are to be translated shows that people don't have an understanding of its meaning.
What the NWT translators did was have those scriptures conform to the teachings of the rest of the Bible in that Jesus was created by Jehovah. Jesus could not create all things because Jesus was part of the all things that were created. Jesus was not God as he was the son of God.
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Circus Assembly Jaw Dropper
by Slidin Fast inthe co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".
then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.
f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..
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Rattigan350
Tolerance does not promote division. Intolerance promotes division.