The belief will always be there as it is Biblical. (The calculations will be argued, but the concept is totally biblical) But there is nothing to do or act on concerning it. They can't make rules about it and the GB like to make rules. If they can't make rules, what's the point of writing something?
Rattigan350
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Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?
by smiddy3 ini just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..
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God, Jesus, & Holy Spirit - never mentioned together in one authentic verse.
by BoogerMan inin every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
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Sea Breeze, who quoted those verses?
My conclusion was that Jesus never said "baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit" because if he is the great teacher, why would he say something, or instruct something without explanation?
He never explained what that means. (Kind of like 'this generation' & Faithful and discreet slave)
People like to grab verses or make them up to support their positions.
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God, Jesus, & Holy Spirit - never mentioned together in one authentic verse.
by BoogerMan inin every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
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Rattigan350
Relying on Matt 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 to support the trinity is like relying on Roe v Wade to support constitutional protection of abortion.
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God, Jesus, & Holy Spirit - never mentioned together in one authentic verse.
by BoogerMan inin every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
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Rattigan350
F. C. Conybeare says that Matt 28:19 is not real.
This bishop writes that Matt 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 are spurious.http://bishopjerrylhayes.blogspot.com/2015/08/matthew-2819-and-1-john-57-spurious.html
Also here
https://www.apostolic.edu/the-truth-about-matthew-2819/
Why are all of the trinitarian support scriptures controversial? Why aren't there trinity support scriptures that are not controversial?
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Does the Governing Body already know that Jehovah (the name) came from Babylon the Great?
by Chevelle ini'll start by stating the obvious... according to the watchtower, the catholic church is a huge part of babylon the great which is led by satan and his demons.
raymundus martini, a catholic monk (who "represents" babylon the great to some extent), woke up one day in the 13th century and decided to alter yhwh so it can be easily pronounced.
hence the spanish-ish version of yhwh was created... jehova... (sounds something like this in spanish: heh-o-va).
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How does that even matter?
Think of that question first and then answer that before posting such a question.
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For those following the JW headquarters reaction to the UK documentary - Rebekah Vardy: Jehovah's Witnesses and Me
by jwleaks inin addition to the jws false and misleading denial that rebekah vardy was ever a jehovah's witness, a few other interesting developments occurred that are worth noting:.
1. an article in the last days newsletter reporting on how the jw[.
]org website scrubbed clean its jw 'news' page and produced an entire new glossary of jw terminally meaning for the media:.
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"In addition to the JWs false and misleading denial that Rebekah Vardy was ever a Jehovah's Witness,"
Why would we or anyone care whether she was a JW? It's not like she has any special information.
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Regional convention 2023
by sove inany streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?
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"The shunning policy along with the blood doctrine and a stone-aged 2 witnesses rule cannot just disappear overnight."
The problem that I have with the organization is that they are pharisees. They have added rules where they are none.
The law on blood is only found in Genesis 9:4. It contains nothing on the medical use of blood. The governing body adding that makes it their law and not God's law.
Disfellowshipping is completely from the apostles with references back to Israel under the Law. It is all about the congregations rather than anything from Jesus.
I'm not opposed to the two witness rule. Considering that the 9th command says to not testify falsely against someone and there are many other laws showing that Jehovah knows that humans lie and commit perjury against others shows that it is needed.
And considering Blackstone's ratio "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer", was a legal principle since 1760s, the two witness rule is necessary.
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Awakening thoughts
by aqwsed12345 ina "waking up", but still a member, jehovah's witness acquaintance of mine from eastern europe wrote the following lines:.
"i count among the main sins of the watchtower society:.
1. concealment.
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Rattigan350
aqwsed12345. Why do you keep writing these huge thesis with so many paragraphs? As Stan livedeath said "yawn".
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When did Jesus die Nisan 14/15/20 or other?
by eyeslice inoften as witnesses, we were told of people who started studying the bible (in reality wt literature) and were amazed at what they learned.
you know the sort of thing i mean i have been going to church for years and never knew that.. .
however, in my recent studies, particularly of the book of john, i have felt the same way.
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Jesus died on the Passover. The first Passover was observed about the time of full moon, on the 14th day of Abib (later called Nisan) in the year 1513 B.C.E. This was thereafter to be celebrated annually.
If Jesus didn't die on that day, then that accomplished nothing.
Don't worry about what the apostles said or wrote. Always go by what the prophesies said.
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Philippians 2:5-9
by Wonderment inhe tells them to have the same attitude as christ.
man was made in the image of god.
these verses do not mean that because we are the image of god that we are god.
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Why doesn't Juan Baixeras post that on here himself?
This is too much to read for no reason.
I do not define God or Jesus by anything that the apostles wrote. What do or did they know? They had no extra knowledge.