5now he that wrought us for this very thing is god, who gave unto us the earnest of the spirit.6being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the lord 7(for we walk by faith, not by sight); 8we are of good courage, i say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the lord.
9wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.. since watchtower teaches there is only one "you" and not three (soul, body & spirit); how do jw's deal with the fact that scripture says that it is possible for a person to be absent from their body and to be present with the lord in heaven?when i was pioneering, i don't recall a householder every dropping this verse on me; and i'm not sure how i would have handled it if they did.
what say you?.
First, that was Paul and he didn't know everything. He wrote to the anointed back then.
His lack of knowledge lead to the rapture belief.
When person who had been anointed with holy spirit, dies and is resurrected, that one will be with the Lord.
Simple as that.
https://youtu.be/cefnvubzxce?si=edha3qmax4fxlwqq.
everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.
the one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the father and the son.
"WT says you can't be born again because the invitations (144K of them) ran out."
Wrong. I say that. Israel has been filled.
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
Why does it matter who will be killed at Armageddon? Everyone would die at some point anyway.
the GB claim to be spirit directed, but the organization is run by humans.
jesus was enthroned by the 7 times prophecy. yes, Michael did the Job that Jesus was prophesied to do.
regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.
the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?
because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.
"The Bible does condemn "fornication" multiple times."
The Bible doesn't do anything.
Either Israel Society had a law against it, or Post Jesus there was a law.
regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.
the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?
because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.
Jehovah does not care about sex outside marriage. He made the law because humans care. They get jealous and have children out of wedlock.
i used to comment here many years ago when i had an interest in biblical research in relation to jehovah’s witnesses.
these days my biblical research is little concerned with jehovah’s witnesses.
i feel my time is better spent researching the diachronistic development of the biblical text and ascertaining what the biblical writers and editors intended in the times in which they lived.. i have recently placed a summary diagram for a paper that i have written with original research entitled the narrative structure of the hexaemeron on academia.edu.
The days are about Moses, not the creation. Those were the days that God gave visions to Moses on 6 of his days.
because of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?
we entered the hall and some said a short hello.
and with short i say short.
"It seemed absurd to pass those plates like a charade."
But who would actually want to eat the bread and drink the wine? They would have be prepared with so many glasses and crackers.
no matter what opinions you may have, the memorial is very important to us.
many are opposed to the way the organization performs the memorial because of restrictive rules as to who should partake.
as jesus said in scripture, "keep doing this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.
"Do you think the org will change it's stance as to only "anointed" ones partaking"
I don't think that there are any more anointed alive.
And partaking does not mean anything. It does not make one anointed.
i used to comment here many years ago when i had an interest in biblical research in relation to jehovah’s witnesses.
these days my biblical research is little concerned with jehovah’s witnesses.
i feel my time is better spent researching the diachronistic development of the biblical text and ascertaining what the biblical writers and editors intended in the times in which they lived.. i have recently placed a summary diagram for a paper that i have written with original research entitled the narrative structure of the hexaemeron on academia.edu.
The 6 days of Gen 1 were not about the time that God spent creating anything. Remember that it was written by Moses. It was all about him, not God.
for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?
is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?
how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?
"I now knew for certain in my mind that the GB are not who they claim to be. This is not a toll in fact it is the opposite it is such a relief and a huge weight lifted off your shoulders."
Back in the 80s and 90s, one could write the WTS and ask questions and they would write back. In the last 20 years if one writes, then they send the reply to the congregation's elders. It's like the GB is not humble enough to accept that non-Bethelites can have good ideas about the Bible too.
