Posts by Rattigan350

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Will Greg Stafford Complete His Book on "Sharpe's Rule" in 2014? Top JW Scholar Greg Is.

by RottenRiley in

i ordered greg's book a few years ago and wonder if he will ever complete his book?

what is going on with greg, he's a great scholar and a decent bloke, i hope he is doing well heatlh wise and god is blessing him.

i knew this would be a giant task, i hope he did not bite more than he can chew..

Rattigan350

I used to be like that; enjoying arguing the doctrines.

But I discovered something. Witnesses will say that Christendom lies in that they teach the trinity and hellfire, etc.

But that is not a lie, it is that they just interpret the Bible differently than JWs do.

I've never seen God so I don't know if he is a trinity. Same goes for Greg Stafford, Walter Martin, James White, etc.

I've never been to heaven or hell so I don't know what goes on there. Same for the above named people.

It's up to God to clarify matters, not our arguing.

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New congregation accounting system

by thedog1 in

i'm sure i read a thread here about the new congregation accounting procedures.

i ask because i handle the accounts in our cong and in our part of the world the new accounting system has just arrived whereby local congs do not have their own account any longer, but all funds outside of basic monthly costs is forwarded to an account controlled by the org.

this is causing huge confusion in our cong as we have to work out how much we need to keep back for monthly costs and the new idea is that you send all your extra cash to the org and if you need it back you can ask for it but we don't know how easy or hard it would be to do that.

Rattigan350

It has been done that way since 2011.

Say, 12,000 congregations in the USA. $1000 cash in the bank each excess, on average.

That is 12 million dollars that the WTBS puts in an account and draws interest on it.

$1000 would not gather interest on its own but 12 million would at a higher rate.

And the WTS keeps the interest. Afterall, the FDS is granted all of his belongings.

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Jason Cobb's new podcast explaining Menlo Park scandal

by Rufus T. Firefly in

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https://soundcloud.com/jtv-16/jtv-podcast-ep1.

this podcast is very interesting, especially the latter half.

in a nutshell, the scheme is this: after determining that a complete kingdom hall remodel will cost the congregation $100,000.00, the regional building committee arbitrarily inflates the estimate to $250,000.00, fleecing the congregation and misappropriating the additional funds for other purposes.

Rattigan350

All I see is a scenario. I don't see proof.

I don't see, person A did this at that time and conspired with person B who did this at that time.

I don't see names, dates and dollar amounts.

" all requests to the Service Department for a special committee". Show evidence that these requests have been made.

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Jason Cobb's new podcast explaining Menlo Park scandal

by Rufus T. Firefly in

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https://soundcloud.com/jtv-16/jtv-podcast-ep1.

this podcast is very interesting, especially the latter half.

in a nutshell, the scheme is this: after determining that a complete kingdom hall remodel will cost the congregation $100,000.00, the regional building committee arbitrarily inflates the estimate to $250,000.00, fleecing the congregation and misappropriating the additional funds for other purposes.

Rattigan350

This is a bunch of nonsense.

"once the perpetrators of the scam acquire operational control of a congregation’s corporation, thus assuming effective ownership of the Kingdom Hall property, they direct the congregation to finance upgrades to the Kingdom Hall"

If the amount borrowed is too much, then the payments are too high and the congregation can't meet its payments. No one is under any obligation to contribute. So the congregation corporation is left holding the ball. Then the "scammers" scammed themselves.

" thus assuming effective ownership of the Kingdom Hall property," If they borrowed money on the property, it is under a lein, then they can't sell it or do anything without permission from the leinholder.

This Jason Cobb sounds like the fraud. "Having observed this firsthand as a participant in the RBC engagement". Sounds like he is in on it.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-09-2014 WT Study (QUICKLY SHAKEN)

by blondie in

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the wts?.

we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason.2 thess.

(1 tim.

Rattigan350

I remember this article title from 1985 about apostates and can remember the picture of the person getting the info in the mail and throwing it away.

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Imagine A World Where Being "Gay" The Norm & Being "Straight" Would Be The Minority!

by Dis-Member in

imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!

[short film].. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.

Rattigan350

I agree with you Simon. The population would die out over time.

And I agree with yadda. So tired of hearing about gay rights. It's called being friends with benefits and a commitment.

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Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?

by cofty in

it seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.

lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.

if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.

Rattigan350

Back prior to the 1990s it was an Us vs Them mentality. JWs vs the Catholic church or other Christendom.

Now it is an Us vs those not 100% US.

Prior to the deaths of John Barr and Dan Sydlik, they were more loving and caring (as long as people appeared to bow to them).

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Interesting Craigslist Ad, she needs our help.

by Iamallcool in

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http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/mis/4322726860.html.

not a sexual term at all fyi - w4m looking for like-minded friends, in the same condition.

don't respond thinking it means something sexual.

Rattigan350

tiki, that is not my take, that is what she wrote to me. She misses her family and siblings. She's not saying much else.

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When you were a JW, how did you find the time to prepare your talks?

by Iamallcool in

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at home?

at work?.

Rattigan350

I didn't prepare. It is not hard to read well the Bible. and I just talked about the theme and not worried about what the supporting material is.

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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

by Lady Lee in

thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

Rattigan350

I know of 5.

And add to that myself when I got baptized under the premise of giving up my life for the spirit directed organization.