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  What could you have been if you were never a JW?

  by minimus in

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  oh, the possibilities!

  there is a lot of wasted talent.

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  A Rigged Game

  by The Searcher in

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  when i was a young teenager, i went to london for a big convention.. while sightseeing in the centre of london, my friend and i stopped to watch a guy offering people the chance to win easy money - simply by picking the correct playing card out of three which he put on a little table.

  he called it, "find the lady".

  (aka 3 card monte) never having seen it before, i thought this was so easy to win money, but as an unbaptized witness, gambling was wrong, so i didn't participate.. on returning home after the convention ended, i related this experience to my non-witness dad.

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  How is the card game rigged and how can we win?
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  Field Service Reports Count More than Showing Love - Ray Franz CF Book

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  i've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.

  in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .

  i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.

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  " I'll just put 10 hours, 6 mags, and 2 rv on my slip at the end of the month and leave it at that."

   

  I would do that at the beginning of the month, just to see if they would notice.

  The fact that they only care about the CO and stats shows from when I stopped going out in FS and turning in FSR.  Several months later the Secretary said to me that he didn't have my reports for several months, and he said that he knew that I had been out as he saw me.  I just made up numbers for him since he was nice about it.

   He saw me when I wasn't out but they don't see me when I am.  just numbers for the CO.

   
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  More education bashing in April 2015 simplified watchtower

  by hoser in

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  elders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to do more in the congregation.

  ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation.

  most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in jehovahs ser- vice.

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  Not only that but they get penalized by Obamacare for not having insurance.   I imagine that many will try to declare themselves exempt because of religion or too poor.
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  American Sniper - courage or cowardice?

  by Simon in

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  2. entertainment

  the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.

  some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".

  it seems unfair to me.

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  If it is not hand to hand combat, it is cowardice.

  Unless a light saber is involved. 
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  Did you skip the meeting to watch the superbowl ?

  by av8orntexas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know we must have alot ofpeople on here huge football fans like myself.

  born and raised in boston, i am a huge sports fan, and of course patriots fan.

  so anyone here go to another meeting, makeup some bs excuse, illness, flat out miss the meeting or anything else to watch game if your meeting happened to go from the 9am to the 3pm in january ?.

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  A few years ago we had a Circuit assembly on Super bowl Sunday.  The DO mentioned it in his parts about people leaving early for the game.   Everyone around here has parties.
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  Watchtower has a Philosophy of Totalism

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  cults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.

  that certainly fits watchtower.

  they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.

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  Only the Sith believe in absolutes.

   

  This just shows how fake everyone is and is encouraged to be.  People can't display their real feelings for fear of being judged.  Married couples are fake to each other, children towards parents, etc. 
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  Counting service time in a creative way

  by nevaagain in

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  2. friends

  couting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.

  i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.

  they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).

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  This all goes back to the days when there was a pioneer discount on the books and meal tickets.  Pioneers had to count that time and do it properly to make sure that they earned that discount.

   

  There has been no pioneer discount since 1989 but people still think they  need to earn it. 
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  A quick summary of topics and issues wrong with jws

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  you know how our minds often get all "fuzzy" and confused when we are put on the spot and asked to come up with points?

  we often tend to lose focus and go off on tangents?.

  im trying to compile a basic list of bullet points for the most obvious and clear problems / doctrines / history of witnesses that can blow the org out of the water.. it is more for the purpose of getting my own thoughts clear rather than using it to talk to witnesses (as that doesn't really work).

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  Those things listed are not things wrong with jws.  They are things that past leaders did.  The past is the past.

  Stick with current things such as mental manipulation and ruling by fear in order to get people to become dependant and addicted to ultimately get the money. 
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  The best argument that we have an immaterial part (called Spirit/Soul) came from Jesus Christ

  by abiather in

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  2. beliefs

  the best argument that we have an immaterial part (called spirit/soul) came from jesus christ.

  however, it is recorded in the gospel of thomas (not in the traditional four gospels).

  jesus says: if the flesh came into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel.

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  Is that the best that can be done?   A quote from a non-canon book?