Posts by Rattigan350

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Rattigan350

One reason that I support her is that gays came down from Ohio to that county just to cause trouble. If they just cared about their marriage, just go to a state that allows SS unions. Afterall, what is the purpose of state's rights if not for states to make their own rules to see how they work. Some states have legalized marijuana contrary to the federal law. The feds are playing hands off of that.

If due process is the excuse that the SCOTUS used, then why did an amendment to the constitution have to be made to give women the right to vote? Couldn't they use due process for equal rights? Whatever happened to the equal rights amendment? I'm in favor of amending the constitution rather than interpreting it in screwball ways.

Back to the states rights issue. One thing that the court said that if a SS marriage is legalized in a state then it has to be recognized in all states. That makes sense. The same with driver's licenses and insurance policies. But recognition is different from issuing licenses.

I agreed with the Court in Lawrence v Texas when they ruled that laws prohibiting homosexual acts between consenting adults are unconstitutional, because the government has no place regulating acts between consenting adults in their home. That is a penal law and they have jurisdiction on that.

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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

by DJS in

scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

Rattigan350

What I see is total stupidity, especially from the lawyers. She was stupid for using religion as the reason.

She should have just used the law.

KRS 402.005 Definition of marriage.

As used and recognized in the law of the Commonwealth, "marriage" refers only to the civil status, condition, or relation of one (1) man and one (1) woman united in law for life, for the discharge to each other and the community of the duties legally incumbent upon those whose association is founded on the distinction of sex.

Then tell everyone:

402.990 Penalties

(3) Any authorized person who knowingly solemnizes a marriage prohibited by thischapter shall be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

According to the law, if she issues same sex marriage licenses, she is guilty of a misdemeaner, until the legislature changes the law.

Some will say "The SCOTUS said same sex couples have the right to marry based on the us constitution". Ok, they said that. But the SCOTUS does not define laws in states. If it is a penal code law, then their ruling would mean that a person can not be punished for violation, no matter what is on the books, but this is not a penal law. SCOTUS ruling nullified

402.020 Other prohibited marriages.

(1)Marriage is prohibited and void: (d)Between members of the same sex;

But that did not change the definition of marriage in the law. It just removed the prohibition of it. She would have been totally right in refusing to issue the licenses based on 402.005 and 402.990. But hey, people don't bother to read the laws including her.

And remember that there is no obligation for the county clerk to issue marriage licenses because if a person has a right to marry, a person does not need to ask permission from the government. Like the Stratton OH case. A person has the right to preach door to door without getting permission from the mayor so that person does not need to give a name or get a permit.

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What woke you up?

by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

so what woke me up?

an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

Rattigan350

To the OP, Israel Ricky Gonzales . Your story sounds so fake, like an ad from an anti-JW. The common ole Child abuse, UN NGO, Russell and Rutherford and then Greber. That sounds so unreal and not common among people.

My awaking is how people follow the GB/FDS/Watchtower that they are drones and it makes people so unkind and unloving. Why would I want to be with people that treat me and others like that.

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Is homosexuality ever justifiable? I say YES!!!

by TimothyT in

in the january 2012 awake, pages 28-29 there is another article about homosexuality.. .

the writers argue that genetics, the environment, and sexual abuse do not justify homosexuality.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and is an abhorrent sin.

Rattigan350

Men are not attractive enough for homosexuality to be justifiable.

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WT is shorting literature orders by congregation with a problem contributing enough for literature $3500 just for mags

by oppostate in

at our meeting last night there was a talk about having run out of magazines for the last three months.

it's expected this will continue to happen.

the "branch" has not sent the requested number of magazines.

Rattigan350

People still go out in field service? And use literature with all the electronics?

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Women going topless in NYC.

by Fisherman in

within the past couple of days, women in nyc are going around topless in public.

i read in a news article, that in new york city, there are no laws against women going topless in public.the article says that family people are getting offended and they want to stop topless women in public.

in europe women show their breasts on on tv, the beach, and breast feeding in public.

Rattigan350

The supreme court says women have that right, if men have that right, based on their ruling in the gay marriage decision. Equal rights.

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Fading Game of Thrones Style

by Rattigan350 in

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i started watching game of thrones online back in april and watched all 5 seasons by june.. i wonder how my life would be different if i had watched it from the beginning.. if i had seen it over a year ago, i would have left the organization the way the hound left the capitol.. during a battle when sandor clegane, aka the hound, had lost half of his men and saw that the king was a coward, when told that he needs to protect the city, protect the king, he replied - f--k the king's guard, f--k the city, f--k the king and left.. i wish i would have done that.

f--k the elders, f--k the judicial committee, f--k the gb.. best if done during a comment or from the platform.

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Rattigan350

I started watching Game of Thrones online back in April and watched all 5 seasons by June.

I wonder how my life would be different if I had watched it from the beginning.

If I had seen it over a year ago, I would have left the organization the way the Hound left the capitol.

During a battle when Sandor Clegane, aka the Hound, had lost half of his men and saw that the king was a coward, when told that he needs to protect the city, protect the king, he replied - F--k the king's guard, F--k the city, F--k the king and left.

I wish I would have done that. F--k the elders, F--k the judicial committee, F--k the GB.

Best if done during a comment or from the platform.

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They know something’s up.

by John Aquila in

we have the convention this weekend and many jw families are arriving.

one family that ive known for many years from new mexico stopped by to visit my mom.

hes been an elder since the 80s.

Rattigan350

"I said, “What do you mean it doesn’t affect you?” If Jerusalem wasn’t destroyed in 607, that means 1914 never happened, it means Jesus never started ruling in 1914, it means Satan wasn’t thrown to the earth in 1914, it means that the last days never started in 1914, and that means we are not living in the last days."

Yes, 1914 happened. It came after 1913.

But that's not what you meant.

But you are wrong in that even if Jerusalem was destroyed in 587, that would not affect the kingdom being established in the heavens in 1914. So many can't see the forest because they look too closely at the trees.

607 was when Daniel was taken captive. That was when the kings in the line of David lost their sovereignty. That is when the gentile times started, ending in 1914.

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BLONDIE’S HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE 08-16-2015 WT STUDY (JUNE 15, 2015, pages (13-17) (CHASTE)

by blondie in

wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm .

when pornography is mentioned by the wts they mean men, who obviously cant control their sexual desires, so that even a moment is too much.

Rattigan350

When an engaged couple engages in sex, and they get married, that was not fornication. They did that to improve their relationship as a married couple would, it was not done for incidental pleasure.

But the legalistic religion thinks about legalisms

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Are beards allowed yet for MS and Elders??

by EndofMysteries in

i remember a little over 15 years ago, one of my first jobs at a grocery store, the manager was happy that they passed a new policy allowing them to grow a beard.

previously they were not allowed.

among the usa, i guess beards were considered not very professional still.

Rattigan350

"Jesus and apostles had beards"

That is because people back then did not have access to razors and scissors to cut them often.

And no Data-Dog, beards are not cool. They prevent airflow around the face to cool it off.