in the latest copy of the elders textbook someone kindly made available to us on this website, i see that "independently organized meetings for spiritual feeding" are still not allowed.
no wonder because independent research would let the scales fall from the eyes.. the gb still insisting that they are guided by the (always lower case) holy spirit and the bible!!
not that the rank and file members need the bible or holy spirit themselves because they are fed through meetings, conventions, assemblies, jw broadcasting and the publications.
"No wonder because independent research would let the scales fall from the eyes."
Why do people keep saying this when it is not true?
The truth is independent research further solidifies the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses.
What the OP stated was the selfish things that they don't like that are taught and they seek a way to support them.
i would have to say yes...by tagging god's alledged name in their title and attaching to it unusual doctrines, end of world date predictions, deadly blood interpretation, abusive shunning policy, csa cover ups.. is there more?.
Atheists and evolutionist say that God brings reproach on his own name by neglecting the earth and humanity.
well, that went by the wayside quickly.
another flip-flop by the indiscrete slave?.
december 12, 2022what’s new.
"Why did Jehovah`s Witnesses settle on the pronunciation of God`s name as Jehovah ?"
They didn't settle on it. That is what God's name is in English. He gave it to Hebrew speaking people in the Hebrew language as Yahveh. But to English speaking people he gave it as Jehovah.
what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.
this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.
she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.
"She now at age 55 doesn't have a retirement plan, and she has very little savings in her bank account."
And what does that have to do with religion? There are very many non-JWs who are in the same boat and even ones with University degrees.
Why are you looking at this one sided when it applies to everyone?
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Konagirl:
@Rattagan 350 - "It does not matter. You don't build a religion based on one scripture."
"I agree to a point. Each scripture, matters. "
I don't think that any scripture matters. Scripture is just past writings telling of God's will.
His will and purposes will continue even if never written down.
Many things that Jesus said were never written down. If the F&DS saying was written down, then what would they have?
february 2023 study watchtower: .
p. 16, par.
5 - ”when we base our discussions on material published by jehovah’s organization, (not the bible!
"The Watchtower Sept 2012 states that the cry for peace and security was an initial sign."
I don't think that they advocate that anymore just like they don't advocate 1914 and many other things that the pre 1995 GB taught.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
It does not matter. You don't build a religion based on one scripture.
didn't peter say that god is not partial?
(acts 10:34) the 'fartful slave' in warwick disagrees!.
w11 8/15 p. 24 par.
I don't see the problem with the Watchtower quotes. I see problems with your alterations to them.
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
"One cannot leave Jehovah's Witnesses with one's reputation intact."
If one leaves, one's reputation is now that of a leaver. Why should the reputation stay anything different?
"You have to believe that Jehovah`s Witnesses are the only true Christian religion"
If you don't believe that JWs are the only true Religion, then you need to go to the one you believe is the only true religion.
"You can read their literature, but they won't read yours."
Not true. I won't take another's, but I'll sit down and we will discuss it.
"They try to separate you from the real world."
Taylor Swift and Oprah do that.
february 2023 study watchtower: .
p. 16, par.
5 - ”when we base our discussions on material published by jehovah’s organization, (not the bible!
"The Watchtower freely admits it is made up of imperfect men. This is as good as it gets for an apology for getting it wrong. The fact remains - the Watchtower gets it wrong."
Wrong about what??? Why they focus on the Watchtower?
I'm not wrong at what I believe and do. I don't focus on the Watchtower. So why are you?
"So, the only source Witnesses are to get information from is basically a crap shoot. At the same time they claim that their salvation is based on obeying the Watchtower. It is like going to a blind surgeon for a lifesaving medical procedure. Good luck with that!"
You need to remember that the Watchtower's teachings are correct. They can get them wrong, but they are correct. They problem is that they get their teachings from the Bible, such as they follow the apostles. Where do the apostles get their authority to make doctrine such as disfellowshipping and blood?
Also they are taking life from the Bible times and applying it today. They need to open their thinking.
