in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
Sea Breeze, who quoted those verses?
My conclusion was that Jesus never said "baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit" because if he is the great teacher, why would he say something, or instruct something without explanation?
He never explained what that means. (Kind of like 'this generation' & Faithful and discreet slave)
People like to grab verses or make them up to support their positions.
in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
Relying on Matt 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 to support the trinity is like relying on Roe v Wade to support constitutional protection of abortion.
in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..
F. C. Conybeare says that Matt 28:19 is not real.
This bishop writes that Matt 28:19 and 1 John 5:7 are spurious.
http://bishopjerrylhayes.blogspot.com/2015/08/matthew-2819-and-1-john-57-spurious.html
Also here
https://www.apostolic.edu/the-truth-about-matthew-2819/
Why are all of the trinitarian support scriptures controversial? Why aren't there trinity support scriptures that are not controversial?
i'll start by stating the obvious... according to the watchtower, the catholic church is a huge part of babylon the great which is led by satan and his demons.
raymundus martini, a catholic monk (who "represents" babylon the great to some extent), woke up one day in the 13th century and decided to alter yhwh so it can be easily pronounced.
hence the spanish-ish version of yhwh was created... jehova... (sounds something like this in spanish: heh-o-va).
How does that even matter?
Think of that question first and then answer that before posting such a question.
in addition to the jws false and misleading denial that rebekah vardy was ever a jehovah's witness, a few other interesting developments occurred that are worth noting:.
1. an article in the last days newsletter reporting on how the jw[.
]org website scrubbed clean its jw 'news' page and produced an entire new glossary of jw terminally meaning for the media:.
"In addition to the JWs false and misleading denial that Rebekah Vardy was ever a Jehovah's Witness,"
Why would we or anyone care whether she was a JW? It's not like she has any special information.
any streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?
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"The shunning policy along with the blood doctrine and a stone-aged 2 witnesses rule cannot just disappear overnight."
The problem that I have with the organization is that they are pharisees. They have added rules where they are none.
The law on blood is only found in Genesis 9:4. It contains nothing on the medical use of blood. The governing body adding that makes it their law and not God's law.
Disfellowshipping is completely from the apostles with references back to Israel under the Law. It is all about the congregations rather than anything from Jesus.
I'm not opposed to the two witness rule. Considering that the 9th command says to not testify falsely against someone and there are many other laws showing that Jehovah knows that humans lie and commit perjury against others shows that it is needed.
And considering Blackstone's ratio "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer", was a legal principle since 1760s, the two witness rule is necessary.
a "waking up", but still a member, jehovah's witness acquaintance of mine from eastern europe wrote the following lines:.
"i count among the main sins of the watchtower society:.
1. concealment.
often as witnesses, we were told of people who started studying the bible (in reality wt literature) and were amazed at what they learned.
you know the sort of thing i mean i have been going to church for years and never knew that.. .
however, in my recent studies, particularly of the book of john, i have felt the same way.
Jesus died on the Passover. The first Passover was observed about the time of full moon, on the 14th day of Abib (later called Nisan) in the year 1513 B.C.E. This was thereafter to be celebrated annually.
If Jesus didn't die on that day, then that accomplished nothing.
Don't worry about what the apostles said or wrote. Always go by what the prophesies said.
he tells them to have the same attitude as christ.
man was made in the image of god.
these verses do not mean that because we are the image of god that we are god.
Why doesn't Juan Baixeras post that on here himself?
This is too much to read for no reason.
I do not define God or Jesus by anything that the apostles wrote. What do or did they know? They had no extra knowledge.
for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
How is it that people fell in love with him so easily?
