i've made a few friends here on this forum in the year i have been posting, but it saddens me to hear that one of them is being treated as if they are a troll.. yes, i know, there are a few trolls that frequent this forum but we can't treat all newcomers as such.
they come here for help and by our treating them as trolls.
we are actually making them feel shunned.. please give people the benefit of the doubt and treat them as the human being they are.
I agree Lilacs,
We should be careful to not acuse anyone of being a Troll until we have evidence that proves it. All it takes is a little patience. Trolls will inevitalbly get caught in their own lies. We should run with our feelings and start accusing someone just because their story sounds suspicious or just because they aren't aware of the proper netiquette.
TimB
interesting movie that culminates with babette cooking a sumptuous meal for a group of devout christians who feel guilty about enjoying anything because of the sinful nature of enjoyment and their fear that enjoyment of life now will diminish their eternal reward so they vow to each other not to show any signs that they are enjoying the meal.. i saw it the other night and it always reminds me of the witnesses i knew back in the 60s.
Saved by grace or not, Selling books or not, disfellowshipping or not, they are a religion that is different than others but they still adhere closely to the bible. They interpret it differently but so does every other religion that believes that the bible is the word of god.
Are there other Christian religions that hurt their members? Yes. Every one of them do it to a certain extent. Pressure to donate funds. Pressure to "hate" wrongdoers. Pressure to "love" others solely on the basis that they are Christian. Covering over the wrongdoing of "elite" members of the church. Protecting molesters through polocies that make people report to the church first. If you think that the JWs are the only ones who do this, you really need to do some more research. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Anyone who follows a groups teachings based on stories thousands of years old is taking their life and putting it in someone elses hands. IMHO.
TimB
my husband is from austin and is trying to track down a couple of friends.. does anyone know troy davis?
he was divorced and disfellowshipped within the last eight years or so.
is he still in the austin area?
Don't know Troy Davis but I did know Kim. Her first husband was an usher at our wedding. Sorry but I didn't even know that she remarried. I'll ask a couple of questions and see what the local gossip mill can turn up.
By the way, your husband knows my cousin Mike Pel., right? His mother Kathy (my aunt) has just left the Jws and has separated from her husband of 44 yrs. She wants to get together with me and discuss some doctrinal issues. Cool, Huh?
TimB
interesting movie that culminates with babette cooking a sumptuous meal for a group of devout christians who feel guilty about enjoying anything because of the sinful nature of enjoyment and their fear that enjoyment of life now will diminish their eternal reward so they vow to each other not to show any signs that they are enjoying the meal.. i saw it the other night and it always reminds me of the witnesses i knew back in the 60s.
Ozzie,
You are going to base you definition on semantics. Come on. They are just as christian as the Catholics and Babtists. They are a christian CULT but they do try to follow Christ. No one can completly follow Christ because no one knows exactly what he did.
TimB
Land Shark!!!
TimB
despite the failings of many who claim to follow the bible and believe it, this gives no excuse to dismiss it's contents.
thru the centuries it has proved reliable and remains the word of god despite all else.
Clash,
What arguement???????????????????
TimB
interesting movie that culminates with babette cooking a sumptuous meal for a group of devout christians who feel guilty about enjoying anything because of the sinful nature of enjoyment and their fear that enjoyment of life now will diminish their eternal reward so they vow to each other not to show any signs that they are enjoying the meal.. i saw it the other night and it always reminds me of the witnesses i knew back in the 60s.
Ozzie,
I would say that yes....in my book, Jws are Christians. I can see that you don't think so but.....They do try to worship God and follow the example set by the bible account of Jesus. So, yes, they are Christians. How do you define Christians?
TimB
that's all i wanted to say.
you can always spot them by the 'less than 1/2 miles per hour' they stroll down the street.
salvation by the hour.
I loved working by myself....I would walk slowly and deliberately but when I go to a not at home, I'd stay there at the door for a long time after I knew no one was coming. Call me selfish but I didn't want to do my fair share of knocking.
TimB
just wanted to say hi, i love this forum, a little tired of the recovery forums, i am recovered and am doing everything that i never could, to excess and loving every minute of it.
anybody have any ideas of what badness i can try next, i'm all ears.. .
get your head out of your butt.
Welcome Yum,
You've come to the right place to find "badness". Stick around for a few days and you'll be an expert.
What's your story?
TimB
the contradiction below is just one among a great many which show that the bible cannot be trusted to give an accurate account of jesus life.. mark believes that jesus cursed the fig tree before he drove the merchants from the temple:.
the next day as they were leaving bethany, jesus..said to the tree, "may no one ever eat fruit from you again.
" (mark 11:12-14).
Joseph,
Maybe Jesus killed 2 trees. One one the way to the Temple Tirate and the other on the way home after he was really pissed when he found out the the merchants had permits and in order to get that changed he would have to attend a zoning meeting on the 15th of the next month.
TimB
