<--------closing eyes and putting my fingertips on my temples and picturing Joel rolling naked in the snow with the Abominable Snowman (or some big hairy guy that IS NOT ME)....sending the thought to Joel....
TimB
hey my friends,.
throw me some positive thoughts over the next few days.. my job worries are back and my brother called yesterday to say my mother is going downhill more quickly than i imagined.. mitch and i are off to visit her and dad tomorrow.. i had a terrible panic attack last night.
mitch got a xanax in me in the nick of time and i calmed down and went to sleep.. hope everyone is having a good holiday season.
<--------closing eyes and putting my fingertips on my temples and picturing Joel rolling naked in the snow with the Abominable Snowman (or some big hairy guy that IS NOT ME)....sending the thought to Joel....
TimB
a us vs afghani scorecard to date.
by robert fisk@ .
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=111323.
Seeker,
Cool....nice to know that you agree with the sentiments expressed in my post
War is not pretty. It is not a good thing that those people had to die. But unfortunately it is necessary.
TimB
a us vs afghani scorecard to date.
by robert fisk@ .
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=111323.
Seeker,
Are you trying to start an arguement? I didn't say that the civilians were the zealots, now did I? Why did you take a couple of sentences out of my post to make it seem that way? I made my point clear a couple of times that these zealots might care if civilians were going to die for thier actions.
TimB
a us vs afghani scorecard to date.
by robert fisk@ .
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=111323.
I do believe that the number of civilian deaths in Afganistan has probably surpassed the number of deaths on Sept. 11 but I also believe that it's a necessary evil. It's obvious that these zealots don't value their own lives. Maybe they'll value the lives of their countrymen and families.
Fact: The US was Attacked and Innocent civilians were killed.
Fact: The Attack was perpetrated by Islamic radicals who do not fear death.
Fact: This must not happen again
I believe this fight is not about justice. Perfect justice would include restoring the lives that were lost on Sept. 11. No, this fight is about prevention. We cannot allow the terrorists watching to think that there will be no repercussions. We cannot eliminate all terrorist because there are many who haven't even made the decision yet. We can though, make them know that it will not benifit them at all. We can let them know through the death of family and fellow Islamic radicals, and yes innocent civilians, that they will suffer if they choose that course of action. The only solution for terrorism is to make it hurt. Make it hurt very very bad. We have only begun this fight.
TimB
1. you measure distance in minutes.. 2. you've ever had to switch from "heat" to "a/c" in the same day.. 3. stores don't have bags; they have sacks.. 4. stores don't have shopping carts; they have buggies.. 5. you see a car running in the parking lot at the store with no one in it, no matter what time of the year.. 6. you use "fix" as a verb.
example: i am fixing to go to the store.. 7. all the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, or animal.. 8. you install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.. 9. you carry jumper cables in your car ... for your own car.. 10. you know what "cow tipping" and "snipe hunting" is.. 11. you only own four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup,and tabasco.. 12. you think everyone from a bigger city has an accent.. 13. you think sexy lingerie is a tee shirt and boxer shorts.. 14. the local papers covers national and international news on one page but requires 6 pages for sports.. 15. you think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.. 16. you know which leaves make good toilet paper.. 17. you find 90 degrees f "a little warm.".
18. you know all four seasons: almost summer, summer, still summer, and christmas.. 19. you know whether another arkansan is from southern, middle, or northern arkansas as soon as they open their mouth.. 20. there is a dairy queen in every town with a population of 1000 or more.. 21. going to wal-mart is a favorite past-time known as "goin wal-martin" or off to "wally world.".
I was in service and they were showing a lunar landing on the TV and the old woman says. "Look at that hogwash. That's all fake!" I said: "How do you know" She tilted her head down so she could look over her glasses and pulls me closer with her eyes. "It has to be fake. Everybody knows the Earth is square. It says so right there in the Bible. It says the angels were at the four corners of the Earth."
I swear, it's true. And there's more.
TimB
a wife came home just in time to find her husband in bed with another .
woman.
with super-human strength borne of fury, she dragged him down the .
I don't care how pissed off a woman is.....She's not getting my manhood in a vise!
TimB
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
Well said Gently Feral, (I especially liked "Folkses")
An open marriage would not work for everyone any more than homosexuality would would work for everyone. I would venture to say that most relationships don't have the level of communication that allows them to even discuss honestly the possibility of an open marriage. Glad to hear your doing well.
TimB
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
Vita,
As far as I'm concerned you have nothing to worry about. I for one wouldn't "cut your head off" for having a different point of view. I think your points are better addressed on another thread because I don't believe the bible has the answers.
There is no doubt that a great many people that try open marriages fail but what makes anyone think that an open marriage should be any more successful than monogamous relationships which fail at least 50% of the time? Also, there are some, I'm reasonably sure, that try an open relationship as a last resort for their failing marriage. If that's the case then what really was the reason the marriage failed. Any relationship requires love, understanding, sharing, communication and commitment. For those who are capable of true love and care, the concept of wanting your mate to have a good time even with someone else is truly satisfying. If we really care then we would want them to be as happy as they could be. Why did they get married? Most people have sex before marriage so that wouldn't be the real reason. Maybe it's because they like the companionship of each other. Maybe they like knowing that someone will be home when they get there. Maybe it's true love. Sex is not really associated with marriage in our society until you actually are married. Why? Because then we consider each other almost as property. I own you-You own me. When we give up the concept of owning each other we will truly love each other. We can truly look at each other as equals. That's what a marriage should be.
TimB
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
Ok One,
I think I'll disagree with you. It sounds like a awfully broad generalization about couples you haven't even known.
TimB
well, my husband found out about my affair (yes, i gave in to the temptation with the soccer player and while it was fantastic, it's over now) and it's been a devestating time, we almost got divorced, but we're working through it.
i knew telling friends and this board wasn't going to help me fight his romantic advances, but i tried.
it was a one time thing that would have continued, but i wasn't too careful about the clues (guilty conscience i think).
One,
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that you're basing you opinions of an open marriage on the actions and words of men who just want to cheat on their wives?
TimB