b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.
c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.
d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.
punkie,
there are the remains of watchtower(R) programming still in your mind. That old familiar feeling is comforting.
Of course there are. Why would that even surprise you? Yet, there are some fundamental questions that right now are digging a deeper trench between myself and the official doctrine of the Watchtower Society.
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b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.
c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.
d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.
yadda,
The cbsm website is very vague about their beliefs. I can't tell what exactly they stand for.
As for Anthony Buzzard's Restoration Fellowship, his belief in a literal, earthly millenium kingdom with a "full restoration of the earth" is something I currently struggle with. Still, interesting.
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b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.
c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.
d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.
Indian Larry, about the "Living Hope International Ministries", whose link you have provided, they're interesting and their set of beliefs is remarkably identical to that of the JW's; however, this:
When Christ returns, he will rule over the entire earth with his throne located in Jerusalem.
Is sooo Rutherford/Russell pre-1925 belief. I don't find them to be all that different from the JW's. Apparently they don't engage in door-to-door evangelism.
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see full article here.. this recent finding in israel challenges the long-established proposition that homo sapiens have arised originally in africa.. eden.
Ty Jgnat.
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see full article here.. this recent finding in israel challenges the long-established proposition that homo sapiens have arised originally in africa.. eden.
i'm sure this has already been discussed.
but here are my thoughts on why jcs are unscriptural.. .
elders are instructed to look for works that befit repentance (acts 26:20).
marked
the new light from 2012 summarized on jw.org:.
who are the domestics?.
jesus said that his domestics would receive food at the proper time.all genuine followers of jesus are fed by the faithful and discreet slave.
That's a very logical reasoning, yadda.
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b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.
c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.
d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.
wawym,
yes, i noticed they don't have a unified body of theology. I side with the Arian view, of course.
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b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.
c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.
d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.
The Christadelphians believe that the Devil isn't real. That I cannot agree with.
Also:
Wiki - "Christadelphians do not believe that anyone will "go to Heaven" upon death. Instead, they believe that only Christ Jesus went to Heaven, and when he comes back to the earth there will be a resurrection and God's kingdom will be established on earth, starting in the land of Israel."
Can't agree with, either. That sounds a lot like pre-1925 christology of Rutherford.
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the society has long taught that the immense, heaven-reaching, majestic tree of daniel 4 that it says represents gods rulership over the earth was cut down in 607bce, but that the copper band around the tree stump was unbanded in 1914ce when it says the kingdom was born and jesus began to rule.. matthew 13: 31 - he presented another illustration to them, saying: the kingdom of the heavens is like a mustard grain that a man took and planted in his field.+32 it is, in fact, the tiniest of all the seeds, but when it has grown, it is the largest of the vegetable plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of heaven come and find lodging among its branches.. notice the similarity of jesus words above with the description of the majestic tree of at daniel 4. there is even a cross-reference at matthew 13:32 to daniel 4 in the new world translation.. jesus is here comparing the kingdom of heaven to a tree that would have a tiny beginning as a seed but would grow bigger than all the other vegetation.
tree seeds take a long time to grow, and so do unbanded tree stumps.. if the tree of daniel 4 was unbanded in 1914, did it instantly grow back into a giant, majestic tree over night?
no, it would take a long time for it to regrow to its former height and glory.
The tree of Daniel 4 is simply meant to represent Nabuchadnezzar's reign. I don't know why people make such a fuss about it.
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