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  No Satan

  by jgnat in

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  that was one of the first of the prepackaged beliefs from my church that i let fall.. why?.

  because i'd stared evil in the face and lived to tell about it.

  i know it's textures, it's dark places, the feel, smell, perversion, degradation, corruption of it.

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  EdenOne

  Now seriously.

  That prophecy isn't about Satan / Devil. It's about the King of Babylon, presumably Nebuchadnezzar, or about the Neo-babylonian dinasty.

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  No Satan

  by jgnat in

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  2. beliefs

  that was one of the first of the prepackaged beliefs from my church that i let fall.. why?.

  because i'd stared evil in the face and lived to tell about it.

  i know it's textures, it's dark places, the feel, smell, perversion, degradation, corruption of it.

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  Was it before or after Eden?

  Gee, I don't know. Was he around before 1971??

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  No Satan

  by jgnat in

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  that was one of the first of the prepackaged beliefs from my church that i let fall.. why?.

  because i'd stared evil in the face and lived to tell about it.

  i know it's textures, it's dark places, the feel, smell, perversion, degradation, corruption of it.

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  Somehow I couldn't recall Genesis treating Satan like a veggie, but I might have missed it somehow... ;)

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  No Satan

  by jgnat in

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  that was one of the first of the prepackaged beliefs from my church that i let fall.. why?.

  because i'd stared evil in the face and lived to tell about it.

  i know it's textures, it's dark places, the feel, smell, perversion, degradation, corruption of it.

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  EdenOne

  Where, Jgnat?
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  IDOL WORSHIP

  by The Searcher in

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  probably not an original thought, but after the nauseous watchtower today, i just wanted to say what occurred to me this morning:.

  the present governing body is the witnesses given alternative for the modern-day golden calf!.

  and most have contributed to its existence!.

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  EdenOne

  When Abraham made the golden calf near Mount Sinai he said " "This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt." (Exodus 32:4)

  In effect, the GB is telling everyone: "This organization is your god, who saved you from this wicked system of things and will carry you to the earthly paradise".

  Just like Aaron and the Israelites didn't believe that the golden calf was Yahweh himself, but rather, a visible representation of the deity, whom they promptly worshipped, the modern-day Aaron fashioned the organization to be the visible representation of the very God they claim to worship, in effect, rendering the organization said worship.

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  Literature carts are the cruisiest way to preach ever - photo attached

  by jwfacts in

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  it was a perfect spring day, and a jazz band were playing in the mall near my work.

  in front of the band, two watchtower literature carts stood in solidarity.

  i could not work out who were the jws attending them.

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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  Interestingly, you only seem to get fussy with it when it's applied to your so cherished rationalist-atheist worldview. Just sayin' ...

  And, btw, you DO know that pre-exile judaism isn't technically speaking "monotheistic", right? I would define it as "monadikotheism" ('monadikos' = unique). Errrm, no point in looking it up. I coined that expression today

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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  EdenOne

  Actually, it is also true for any kind of ideology, even atheist ideologies such as the ones of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodja.

  

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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  Adamah,

  That was very likely what he had in mind - because it holds true to any religion.

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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  EdenOne

  Just a quick thought on an old thread.

  What if ...

  The "earthquake" [greek: 'seismos', which, besides "earthquake" can also mean a shake, riot, upheaval, comotion] that splits the great city in three may refer to the endless social-military upheavals that have involved Jerusalem, resulting in it today being a "great city" split into three parts, the three so-called monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity, Islam?

  In this case, Jerusalem would be "Babylon the Great".

  Eden