recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.
"and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.
in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.
I was at the start of a forum that gathered members that used to post on the (now defunct) forum of E-Watchman (Robert King).
I suggested we registered it as www.e-jw.org, which was the name that ended up having. Note how close it is to the official www.jw.org :D
Doesn't seem to attract many new curious people, though, although I'm not a forum administrator there. But it was fun to be able to register that website name.
Eden
Cantleave, you're a serious candidate to a stroke or heart attack. I'm sure you're aware of that, buddy. ;)
in any case, you do look a lot more relaxed now.
Eden
saw this over on jwstruggle youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypi0mzhju84.
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what did jesus say?.
(acts 1:8)8 but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in jerusalem and in all judea and samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.
by "divine providence" what did jesus' followers become known as?.
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**this was predicted from some members here**.
to all congregations .
re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .
They have nothing left to say!
That just about sums it up for me. Without Freddy Franz, there's no more deep oracle to come up with lenghty prophetic interpretations with multiple types and antitypes occupying entire afternoons. Just as the literature is being dumbed down, so are the conventions. Less to say also means $$savings$$ in venue rentals.
What part of "shut up and obey" are we not listening?
Eden
**this was predicted from some members here**.
to all congregations .
re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .
I have the slight suspicion that there is more to the change from "district" > "regional" than just semantics. By common-sense definition, a "region" is broader than a "district". The implication of this is likely that the summer conventions will be fewer in number, but bigger, with more congregations assigned to one "regional convention". This way, the local branch office will save some $$$ in venue rentals, perhaps reorganizing the branch territory into "regions" rather than "districts" and cutting down a few conventions and a few Disctrict Overseers from their payroll.
Eden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhl-x1u0cua.
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yolo!
LOL
after reading another thread on pedophiles i was wondering if there is a pedophile epidemic or is it just that we now have more access to the information?
it seems like everywhere you read there are more and more cases being reported.
are we becoming a nation with no morals at all?
What Phizzy said raises one interesting - and uncomfortable - question:
What if:
It is just possible that such research may throw up the fact that Paedophiles are born that way, as Homosexual people are. That would not of course in any way justify the behaviour, but it may show that lifelong treatment and help is necessary to restrain them.
Homosexuals say that research proves that they are born that way, so it's cruel to try to change them by means of 'treatment' or 'indoctrination', and much less punish them. They fight for acceptance. That's the current state of affairs.
But what if, by the same token, research proves that paedophiles are also born that way? Will it be cruelty to try to change them by means of 'treatment' and 'indoctrination', and enforce punishment upon them? Will it be reasonable that they also start fighting for acceptance?
Is paedophilia an innate sexual behavior? Is homosexuallity an innate sexual behavior? What makes one "pathological" and "criminal" and the other "non-pathological" and "accepted" ?
I know, these are uncomfortable questions, but they need to be asked.
Eden
i recently became aware of the new light.
please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?
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Can you clarify exactly what you mean by this??
But you are correct, the organization that was established in 1931 as the Jw’s of today never believed in making such perditions as well as C.T. Russell’s association within the bible students.
I frankly fail to follow your reasoning at this point.
Eden
i recently became aware of the new light.
please correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't this new light concerning 1914 means that the wt have been preaching the wrong doctrine for decades?
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It really doesn't matter if 607 B.C.E. or 587 B.C.E. are the historically correct dates for the destruction of Jerusalem in order to determine where the start of the "seven times" is found. In either case, they are irrelevant in the calculations leading to 1914 because:
a) The prophecy of Daniel chapter 4 applies solely to Nabuchadnezzar; therefore, the "seven times" are seven years, the exact time that lasted the insanity of the Babylonian king. Daniel chapter 4 contains in itself the prophecy and the narrative of its fulfillment.
b) The Millerite notion of one day = one year as a "biblical rule" is completely unwarranted to be extrapolated into this prophecy. (7 "times" = 7 lunar years of 360 days = 2520 days = 2520 years). One must wonder how come 7 years become magically broken into days and then magically reconstructed into years again.
c) And even assuming that a) and b) could be true in tandem, something else makes the entire subject laughable: How come 2520 lunar years (years composed of 360 days each) magically become 2520 solar years (years composed of 365,25 days) in the timeline of history? Because 2520 lunar years, when converted to solar years, actually are 2485 years, and nearly 6 months. [2520 x 360 / 365,25 = 2.485,47] So, even if 607 B.C.E. was to be the actual date of the destruction of Jerusalem, the actual duration of the "seven times" would be 2485 years and nearly 6 months [i.e. 2520 lunar years], leading to c. 1879/1880. If the starting date is 587 B.C.E. , then we would arrive at 1899/1900. To ignore the conversion of lunar years to solar years makes the debate around the starting of the "seven times" completely idiotic, and dishonest too, because it would NEVER lead to 1914 anyway.
Now, as for you, billythekid, you accused Jeffro of being a "son of Satan". Yet, you purposedly misrepresent the Bible by ignoring the points above. Interestingly, Satan is portrayed in the Gospels as the one who twists the holy scriptures in order to prove his points. So tell me: who are you proving to be son of?
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