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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

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  EdenOne

  Actually, it is also true for any kind of ideology, even atheist ideologies such as the ones of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodja.

  

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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  EdenOne

  Adamah,

  That was very likely what he had in mind - because it holds true to any religion.

  Eden
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  U.N turning on Religion...sounds like those nutjob survivalists...never happen!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  american survivalists and cults believe in "the new world order".

  a world government will take over and we will all have barcodes on our arms etc... how did this nonsense get into watchtower lore with the whole u.n thing.

  the org.

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  EdenOne

  Just a quick thought on an old thread.

  What if ...

  The "earthquake" [greek: 'seismos', which, besides "earthquake" can also mean a shake, riot, upheaval, comotion] that splits the great city in three may refer to the endless social-military upheavals that have involved Jerusalem, resulting in it today being a "great city" split into three parts, the three so-called monotheistic religions: Judaism, Christianity, Islam?

  In this case, Jerusalem would be "Babylon the Great".

  Eden
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  The Bible's Buried Secrets, new findings on how the ancient Israelites became supposedly monotheistic

  by Finkelstein in

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  i viewed this tv series recently and found the information interesting to say the least.. here is part 2 which got my attention the most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyd0lzmile8.

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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  EdenOne

  Sorry, GS, I mistook him for another preacher on the line of the "prosperity gospel". I apologize.

  "The End of Faith" et al... ok I get it. Thank you

  Eden

  Edit: Carl Harris was the one I had in mind.
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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  EdenOne

  Thank you, GS.

  Although "feel-good" christianity isn't really what I'm looking into.

  Eden
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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  EdenOne

  Sure, Adamah, whatever floats your boat.

  

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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  EdenOne

  Reading first, yes.

  Eden
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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  Adamah

  EdenOne, it sounds like you're in the market, shopping for a new religion that fits your thinking? In the past, you relied on your 'horribly-flawed' moral compass to choose the JWs (and God didn't help you on THAT decision, despite prayers asking Him for direction on that decision), so why do you think you stand any better chance of picking the "right" religion now?

  You assume so much, Adam. Too much, for an intelligent person.

  I was raised a JW; there was no "moral compass" involved in choosing the JW's. Although I was baptized as a baby in the RCC, soon my mother began studying with a Witness neighbor who converted her, and thus I was raised a Witness since the age of 5. Not much room for personal decision there, is it? I was baptized as a teenager too. Again, not much room for choice or letting a fully developed, albeit 'horribly-flawed' 'moral compass' drive me.

  Then, you also assume wrong that I am "shopping" for a new religion. Pick your guess as for what my reasons are. I won't waste time in arguing them with you.

  Eden
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  What other religious groups are ...

  by EdenOne in

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  b) teach conditional salvation based primarily on faith in christ?.

  c) refuse eternal torment in a literal fiery hell?.

  d) refuse the immortality of the soul?.

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  EdenOne

  punkie,

  there are the remains of watchtower(R) programming still in your mind. That old familiar feeling is comforting.

  Of course there are. Why would that even surprise you? Yet, there are some fundamental questions that right now are digging a deeper trench between myself and the official doctrine of the Watchtower Society.

  Eden