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  Dedicated

  by joelbear in

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  i have a question for the group.. i am wondering if anyone has ever had a dedication and baptism successfully anulled.. i clearly recall that i did not answer the 2 questions when asked with the baptismal group.

  i have an enormously strong aversion to lying and i knew that i was a homosexual and therefore didn't feel like i could answer the questions truthfully even though i was a virgin.. if i was never dedicated in jehovah's eyes how can i be disfellowshipped in his eyes.

  i never took the vow, so doesn't that basically just make my baptism meaningless.

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  joelbear, first of all, i just wanted to say that i have enjoyed the positivity and kindness of your posts. i too was baptized at 14 and i don't think anyone can make a binding agreement for lifelong loyalty to any organization. when the elders came to me after years of seperation, i told them this, and my reasoning was flatly denied even though i never tried to take back my dedication to jehovah. they seem to view dedication to jehovah as inseperable to dedication to the organization.
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  YOU ARE A BUNCH OF ADMIRABLE WINNERS!

  by Thirdson in

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  those of us who spent a good portion of our lives as slaves to the printing corporation in brooklyn do well to reflect on our achievements.

  we have managed to break the cult shackles and get past the guilt barrier.

  we are building happy, successful lives.

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  i thank you for the positive note, thirdson. most of us here like to be encouraged, and it can't happen to much. thanks
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  Question about disfellowshipping

  by MoodyBlue in

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  i have a question.... if the elders "catch wind" of something that could be a df'ing offense, and they ask for a judicial, if you don't show up or refuse to talk to them, can they disfellowship u in absence??

  if they can, is there any legal action that can be taken against it?.

  i've been threatened by my jw husband (we are separated) because i've met someone else...he is threatening to tell the elders i'm dating someone else ( though as of yet, no "fornication" has occured and it's long distance) if i don't write a letter of disassociation.

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  i had such a similar situation. i never met with the elders, just told them i didn't want to be bothered at my door. they still disfellowshipped me w/out notification because when they asked me if my, then girlfiend, now wife, was living with me, i said yes. i, like others, think they could easily DF you. i hope they don't and i understand not wanting to DA because of family. that's why i still hadn't sent a letter when they first contacted me. i hope things work out as well as they can for you.
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  does anyone remember this?

  by unanswered in

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  i'm new so i just saw last week's thread from rr on jw songs.

  if you all have already covered this, forgive me, but do you remember when we switched to the new song book years back?

  i tried so hard not to laugh with everyone trying to get the new songs down.

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  i'm new so i just saw last week's thread from RR on JW songs. if you all have already covered this, forgive me, but do you remember when we switched to the new song book years back? i tried so hard not to laugh with everyone trying to get the new songs down. and it was wrong to laugh because these were serious "prayers". my father would be giving me sideward glares while everyone around me lurched through the songs. i'm not trying to be critical, just remembering the comedy.
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  Special Assembly Day "Wisdom"

  by deludednomore in

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  this is my first post here.

  this forum has really.

  helped in my break from the organization.. .

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  my mother-in law keeps sending my wife and i the magazines, so i get lots of little gems like this. aren't we lucky?
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  GOOD cult control techniques

  by philo in

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  with logical's post in mind, i want to start a thread about something positive.

  the wt are positively good at controlling their followers.. which is your favourite wt control technique, and why??????????.

  the best contibution wins six million devoted worshippers and a 40 year conditional canonisation in the pages of the wt.. the one i like is so good because it works from 'on high' as well as among the orphans and widows at the congregation.

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  hand and hand with guilt, my favorite has to be shame. shame for being just a publisher, shame for being sinful, shame for "perverted" sexual desires with your mate....i could keep on going for days.
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  GOOD cult control techniques

  by philo in

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  with logical's post in mind, i want to start a thread about something positive.

  the wt are positively good at controlling their followers.. which is your favourite wt control technique, and why??????????.

  the best contibution wins six million devoted worshippers and a 40 year conditional canonisation in the pages of the wt.. the one i like is so good because it works from 'on high' as well as among the orphans and widows at the congregation.

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  hand and hand with guilt, my favorite has to be shame. shame for being just a publisher, shame for being sinful, shame for "perverted" sexual desires with your mate....i could keep on going for days.
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  Holidays

  by eyes_opened in

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  i know this has probably been covered a bunch...but here i go anyway lol.

  how many of you guys who have been out of the org.

  for a while, now celebrate the holidays?

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  both my wife and i have been out for several years. i personally think that holidays are not celebrated for religous reasons very often anymore, but since i grew up a witness and never had them, i don't really miss them. however, around thanksgiving, turkeys are cheap, my friends and i have time off work and it's great opportunity to get together and feast on something we don't eat very often. my point is, i usually don't have a reason to observe the holidays, but if i do, such as the nephew's and niece's birthdays or thanksgiving, i have no problem with it. as far as the birthdays, it is part of their life, and i don't want to miss it.
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  looking for old friends

  by unanswered in

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  i'm an ex-jw in or and i grew up in southern ca.

  i'm looking for any ex-jws from the poway area in north san diego county that maybe i grew up around.

  might be be a shot in the dark, but worth a try.

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  i'm an ex-jw in OR and i grew up in southern CA. i'm looking for any ex-jws from the poway area in north san diego county that maybe i grew up around. might be be a shot in the dark, but worth a try.
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  Question #3 "What will you say?"

  by ozziepost in

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  all irregular and inactive publishers will be pleased with the heartwarming news that april will see a special campaign by the elders to encourage you.

  yes, don't faint, it must be true because the april kingdom ministry says so.

  in fact, so strong is the forecasted encouragement, that it states on paragraph 25 of the insert article:.

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  since i live in the same town as when i was associated, they will be the same elders that hunted me down at every new place i moved to over the years, so i'll tell them how glad i am that they came, and that i want to repent of my free thinking-right before i slam the door.