very good point, venice. i totally agree.-nate
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Jehovah's Name!
by VeniceIT inone thing that really bothers me is how jw's think jehovah will protect them from any scandle because they have his name and he won't want reproach brought upon it.. well, if they read their bibles and looked in the old testament(yes i'm starting to lose the jwisms such as hebrew scriptures), how many times were the isrealites (who he had chosen, and who everyone knew where his people), punished.
he didn't hide what they were doing or pass over it to protect his 'name'.
why do the jw's have this dissolution.
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RE: Ozzie's post on "Restrictions"
by had_enough ini have a question about restrictions on df'd persons wanting to come back to the org.. i finally joined here on mar 26, after reading posts for about a month, with telling my story first.
what moved me to join in was reading ozzie's post on mar.23(i think), about "restrictions" regarding reproofs, probations, and df'ing.
i appreciated his comments and was so glad when he brought the subject up.
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humble-not attacking here, but how does any man or woman have the ability or right to decide when another's conscience is "clean"? from my reading, this is not a biblical notion. if you are refering at all to hebrews 5:13-16, this doesn't mention one's personal conscience at all. what if a person's conscience is already clean?just asking. respectfully-nate
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A polite request to LURKERNOMORE
by Focus inin the thread "wt leader admits being demon possessed" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3720&site=3 and in every other thread in which tallyman has participated that i have read, you have ruthlessly and remorselessly attacked him.. don't you think he has been punished enough?
the courts had all the information, the prosecution worked very hard - and a jury of his peers found him not guilty of any offense.
and they had far more information than you do.. because you are weasel-wording, the smear you are attempting and perpetrating just might fall short of actionable libel - i do not know.
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don't have much to say, others have covered it well. just wanted to add another voice in support of tallyman. tallyman-i hope you don't let lurker get to you, but i can see how it would be quite troubling.-nate
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We'll have a gay ol' time
by riz ini recall having a conversation with a friend about homosexuality not too long ago.
he put a new spin on the subject that i had never thought of before.
he said his opinion was that the bible condemns homosexuality for the simple fact that the act of sex between same-sex partners does not produce children.
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nice post, riz. to me, getting along without judgement isn't rocket science. well, not anymore, at least. i know what you mean about growing up being taught one thing and realizing how silly it is. my views used to be much more narrow. if i still thought that way, i wouldn't be able to accept a lot of cool people.
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very nice thought, esmeralda. i try to be a tolerent person, i think it helps me to be a better person, but, because of reading your post, i will self-examine a little more.:)-nate
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To All those on REINCARNATION thread
by RavynX inrisking the flames of the ignorant, let me suggest some reading for all you awakening humans who i have come to love:.
do a search on john edward, he has a site but i am not sure if it is johnedward.com or .org, and he is also on the sci-fi channel(cable tv in usa) and has a site on their page too.
i recommend getting one of his books and watching his show.
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rem-IMO not all discussions are the same. sometimes people who agree can have interesting conversations. yes, it would be boring if ALL discussions did not include debate, but some are not started for that purpose. this said, i still think you have the right to say whatever you want. it would be nice if SOMETIMES people don't have to be criticized, if that is their wish. for me i rarely want to talk about something without being challenged, but there are a few instances where i might not want criticism. i say rarely because people that know me know i love to debate. if you still wish to criticize on this one occasion, i don't think it makes you a bad person, and i'm not going to cry about it. i'll take what you said into consideration, but that doesn't mean that, categorically, no one should ever be able to discuss something on the board w/out being criticized, does it? it's just how i feel about this one topic, and it may well be a view that is unique to me-if so, that's fine, i'm definitely not wishing to make a rule.-nate
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I Think That I Chose My Parents.
by Englishman indo you believe in reincarnation?.
i dont think i believe in it in the same way that most believers do, which is that we keep coming back in different fleshly bodies until we have achieved perfection.. i do, however, strongly suspect that we may well be spirit creatures who find it necessary to inhabit a fleshly body from time to time, and that this entails us having to leave behind most of our past memories.. i say most memories, because many people seem to have some vestigal recollections that don`t seem to fit in with earthly experiences.. i`m pretty sure that i chose my parents!
i have a recollection of being shown a young and kind couple through some form of astral telescope and choosing to become their son.
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expat-just wanted to clarify that when i said "doubters", i didn't mean it to be negative.:) i happen to think a certain way, i'm not closed off to new ideas. i wouldn't want to get to the point where i was dogmatic about my views, and wasn't trying to with my post.:)-nate
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I Think That I Chose My Parents.
by Englishman indo you believe in reincarnation?.
i dont think i believe in it in the same way that most believers do, which is that we keep coming back in different fleshly bodies until we have achieved perfection.. i do, however, strongly suspect that we may well be spirit creatures who find it necessary to inhabit a fleshly body from time to time, and that this entails us having to leave behind most of our past memories.. i say most memories, because many people seem to have some vestigal recollections that don`t seem to fit in with earthly experiences.. i`m pretty sure that i chose my parents!
i have a recollection of being shown a young and kind couple through some form of astral telescope and choosing to become their son.
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rem-i don't know why you think i am trying to say that everyone isn't welcome to express their views. i just don't know why other views have to be discredited. i have ABSOLUTELY no problem with you expressing yourself. i think if you had seen most of my posts since i first got here not long ago, it would be apparent to you that i have no wish to censor anyone. i think opinions can be expressed, however, without trodding all over the opposing view. did you see my posts? did i ever say that you or any with your opinion are wrong? when you read my posts-try to see the real motive behind it. i think it's obvious that i don't have a problem with your views, only how some presented them.-nate
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To All those on REINCARNATION thread
by RavynX inrisking the flames of the ignorant, let me suggest some reading for all you awakening humans who i have come to love:.
do a search on john edward, he has a site but i am not sure if it is johnedward.com or .org, and he is also on the sci-fi channel(cable tv in usa) and has a site on their page too.
i recommend getting one of his books and watching his show.
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ravyn-i'm sorry that even when you start a new thread and specificly ask that it not be a place for criticism your wishes are not respected. i enjoyed your post and can identify with some of your experiences. looking forward to your future posts.:) not everyone believes the same thing, it's too bad some can't be content with differences in a opinion. don't let it discourage you, though i doubt it will.-nate
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I Think That I Chose My Parents.
by Englishman indo you believe in reincarnation?.
i dont think i believe in it in the same way that most believers do, which is that we keep coming back in different fleshly bodies until we have achieved perfection.. i do, however, strongly suspect that we may well be spirit creatures who find it necessary to inhabit a fleshly body from time to time, and that this entails us having to leave behind most of our past memories.. i say most memories, because many people seem to have some vestigal recollections that don`t seem to fit in with earthly experiences.. i`m pretty sure that i chose my parents!
i have a recollection of being shown a young and kind couple through some form of astral telescope and choosing to become their son.
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to all doubters-i think some of you are missing the point of this thread. some of us have certain beliefs that you don't. this topic wasn't started to argue some of our beliefs, only to share them. i really have no idea why you have the need to tell us we are wrong. also i think like esmerelda in that i don't discount the possiblity that science could have an explaination for the things that have been talked about on this thread. i posted on this thread to share some of my experiences/thoughts. period.
am i back at the kingdom hall? why is it so hard to be tolerent of others beliefs? it seems some here are having a hard time letting those of like opinion discuss a topic without having to try to beat it down. this dissapoints me. i'm not proving why i feel the way i do simply because that wasn't the reason i posted my thoughts. not every discussion here needs to be a debate, does it? if any of you doubters are vegetarians, do you go up to someone at the supermarket and lambast them for being meat eaters? it's not a great comparison, but i think you get what i mean. if someone on the board says something hurtful, tell them what you feel. if someone on the board brings up a topic for debate, debate it, but if someone shares an opinion, why try to discredit them? this kind of unasked for criticism will only bring negativity to a place almost all of us come for positivity. please take these thoughts into consideration, i know that probably most of you that criticized are nice people.:)