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The W.T.B.T.S. is on the ropes for negligence

by unbaptized_1 in

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friends

hello again to all.. okay,friends,i hear you guys......... oh,no,not the return of the newbie gone.

mad prophet!!

i had to step back for a few.

unbaptized_1

Hello again to all.

Okay,friends,I hear you guys........
Oh,no,not the return of the newbie gone
mad prophet!! I had to step back for a few
months to allow time to pass for matters to
begin transpiring,right? Well,let us see...
The wtbts will no longer offer subscriptions,
which will preceed the demise of that mag....
the watchtower.However,since the wtbts will
now be calling itself....Jehovah's Organization,
(catchy new Name,don't you all think? :)It is
reasonable to consider that the watchtower is
also going to be renamed.
Still,it is more likely that with people not
to confident in the U.S. Postal Service to give
them uncontaminated mail,that the newly named
wtbts will instead announce that due to recent
events that it is no longer cost effective nor
possible,really, to continue the old paper,print
and mail proceedures that have always been used
up until now.(i know it hurts the sharp minds of
scrutiny who have been vigilant in assessing the
errors of the watchtower mag).Kinda like taking
the blanket from Linus,it is gonna be painful.
Soon.........yeah,like how soon,is soon,right?
Before too much longer,:),The wtbts will say to
it's flock that by devine allowance,they will be
using the internet and becoming active in mailing
"electronic magazines".(hey,just push delete)But
of course,this "corporation"(see wt for july 15,00,
page27, "Annual Meeting.... paragraph 2,line 1).
Whether this service will encompass a fee(stop the
chuckling,we know money is the great motivator)is
as yet to be seen.Eventually,as other matters of
grave concern consume the wtbts,such as foxes in
the henhouse(read as theft and extortion of funds
from the wtbts)the writing will be on the wall for
the coming demise of a central headquarters and/or
"governing body".Why?......1 Peter 4:17-18.As one
member replied to me in the original post on this
topic,speak as a babe so as to be easily understood.
Until next we resume this issue,may Jehovah bless
you all and also your families,peace.

MadNewbiegonemadder/Lar

ezekiel 34:1-31

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The WTBTS should be disfellowshipped - re UN

by anglise in

would all those who have access to the revelation climax book, please refer to page 258, ch 35, para 21. for those without access to the publication, i shall paraphrase the pertinent sentences:.

"yes, the nations will use the scarlet-colored wild beast, the united nations, in destroying babylon the great".

then go on to page 285, ch 39, para 23:.

unbaptized_1

DIM,

To say the WTBTS IS NOT GOD'S ORGANIZATION is to overlook
what THIS ENTIRE MATTER ILLUSTRATES..............Psalms 146:3.
Pssssssssstttt,now it gets profound,so listen..Romans 11:1-5.
Whoever is for the Name of Jehovah,on this side,whoever is for
crying over how they were "duped" by the WTS,over there is alot
of free space to [email protected],if you learned of Jehovah,
you trusted in,and still do trust in him,(remember,this was with
all eternity in mind,when you decided you were "ready to devote
your entire existence to Jehovah")and now is fine to separate
from the "organization",if that is your desire,but I caution you
all,not just at this site,but all that describe their memberships
as "anything connected to the Name of Jehovah", just relax a moment.
Allow Christ Jesus to ACT on His Fathers behalf......patience....
Remember this.......Amos 3:7.No one knows the hour or day.......
but show me the verse that says Christ will not share such infor-
mation with earthly persons? Oh,and who are those folks he will do
the sharing with? 2Corinthians 10:18.Peace to all.........Un_1

6

"Do Not Irritate". Total Dub Garbage.

by Englishman in

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friends

"you fathers, do not be irritating your children but go on bringing them up in the self regulating mental blah blah blah".. good grief, how many times did the wtbts trot out that old chestnut?

as a kid it drove me nuts, as a father of several children it did indeed irritate me beyond measure because of its appalling mis-application.. you want to know why it was so irritating?

because the boyz n' brooklyn interpreted it as follows, something like this:.

unbaptized_1

Ballistic,

Thanks for the welcome,and peace to you and your family.
I won't defend what God's Son is entrusted with caring for
regarding the WTBTS.I cannot pretend that so many postings
here of the troubles that affect one congregation after yet
another is not painful and abhorrent to my soul,either.My
mother's congregations elders could not even manage to say
a few words of honest and needed indignation about a long
time older brother,who had the "hots" for some sister(yeah,
you know he's married)and started actually sitting near this
sister(he is a real charmer I hear)while his mrs. is sitting
over there,alone and feeling the high humiliation of the day,
as you can imagine and feel,even.Well,those elders,when she
went to them with the matter(as if the"shepherds" are not
supposed to already be "aware" of this disgusting,repulsive
display of christian behavior)and they told her she was seeing
more in this thing about her hubby than was really there.Whoa.
The sister had to actually change congregations to get "those
darn shepherds"(can you envision the sitcom?)to say a few words
to her husband and have her finally return,because(this is the
real kicker)her husband was embarrassed by her not being there
with her mate and people were "talking".Somebody stop this
planet and let me off,please.Well Ballistic,you got a hell of
a case, as they say.I look forward to interchanges of not only
fact,but also of faith.Peace to all...............Un_1

63

"Hey there all you lurkey ones..."

by Simon in

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friends

hmmn, doesn't quite work does it?

ok...we'll stick with 'thirsty' then .

why not register and make a post or two...ask a question...make a statement...whatever !.

unbaptized_1

Vanishing,

Salvation does not reside within the walls of the Kingdom Hall
or any other man made structure.The real issue for you and the
mrs. is what will you do now with the name of Jehovah?It is not
going to just vanish,no pun intended,into thin air,and I will
say matter of factly(2 Cor.3:17 1John 4:17)that there are many
more members here,by far,who "know" that the Name of God is for
a certainty Jehovah,but they cannot reconcile His being to the
"conditions and irregularities" within the congregations,and also
in a big time way towards the Brooklyn Headquarters and exactly
who the heck is running God's organization.The brothers who were so instrumental in bringing Jehovah's Organization this far are all dead
or nearly dead.I think it is more than a coincidence that a void is
quite apparent regarding "true shepherding within the organization".
I would plead with you and the mrs. to not forget Jehovah's Name
and what is expected of you regarding: 1.praying together regarding
your household and also all people on earth. 2.follow rule one that
our Lord and Savior said was a must,Loving Jehovah your God. 3.you
must treat all your fellow man as you would have him treat you. I
have confidence in you to manage your family until Jehovah makes
the necessary adjustments to His organization.1John 4:21.I am the
"newbie" who boasts quite madly in Jehovah, and I plan to continue
to do so,for purposes to be revealed(if not,it's a rubber room 4me)
by Jesus Christ on behalf of His Father.I was thinking polo shirt@
slacks,with those cute little paper name tags you just stick right
on the front that say: Hi! My Name Is............. when I begin my
foray back into the congregation,What do you think of that idea?
I will test out the LOVE, and Jesus Christ will be with me so I have
no fears.(1John 4:18,19)I intend to get on the ministry school and
in a rapid movement upwards within the congregation(aided once again
by God's Master Worker,who will always be my foundation and way into
getting a prayer heard before Jehovah)and to "wake up the folks
who are just going through the motions". Hey, why serve any God if
His Truths and Divine Purpose is not gonna find fulfillment one day
in our lives? My deep love to you and your family,Vanishing,and all
them lurkers and other newbies.Peace to all...............Un_1.

6

"Do Not Irritate". Total Dub Garbage.

by Englishman in

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friends

"you fathers, do not be irritating your children but go on bringing them up in the self regulating mental blah blah blah".. good grief, how many times did the wtbts trot out that old chestnut?

as a kid it drove me nuts, as a father of several children it did indeed irritate me beyond measure because of its appalling mis-application.. you want to know why it was so irritating?

because the boyz n' brooklyn interpreted it as follows, something like this:.

unbaptized_1

Sir Oswald,

I must indeed answer yes to your question about this
being God's chosen organization/vehicle for promoting
his name and bible truth.While it is very,very true that
many troubles are starting to manifest themselves in so
many ways,and have been left to fester by the governing
body(i use that distinction with great reservation)while
the congregation just handle matters as they see fit.
Isaiah 48:11@Isaiah 42:8,9.The men Jehovah will choose to
lead his people in the future will actually be a throw
back to the men of long ago times.They will speak with
authority and have the scriptual ability to function as
did the Apostle Paul,to name a servant in likeness.That
said,The WTS name must be done away with entirely and If
I am not presuming too much,Sir Oswald,Jehovah's Name is
rightly going to be featured as prominently as His son is
able to make possible.There will be far less reliance on
the fallible writings of men(the bible should have been
the final word and not some WT comment for so long now)I
think everyone must know that your "basic" knowledge, which
will be the foundation to build on, can be found in the red
"paradise" book.The real learning,Sir Oswald,that Jehovah is
yet to reveal,will be without compare in scope and majesty.
The harshness that is disfellowshipping and also public reproofs
will come to it's end,mercifully.The brothers will still keep
an eye out,but a greater force will already be searching out
those who are not truly lovers of Jehovah, and they will be on
their way out within reasonable periods of time.This is not new
system stuff,it is going to be here in what will seem like a
passing day,but will have in fact taken awhile to come about.
I gotta go enter the congregation soon,myself.I am not a learned
man by any definition,never made it out of high school.Finally,
Matt.8:20 is never more true than it will be in our times.You
are very classy and kind in welcoming me and my long winded
commentaries.I apologize where I wax a bit poetic,Sir.I would
venture that the old Jewish system was far more in disarray and
deep in corruption than the WTS is capable of accomplishing.It
would need a another 20 to 50 years in order to lose all sight
of their reason for being.There will be a great redemption by
Jesus Christ of many "outside" Jehovah's people,Sir Oswald.This
I stake my life on and can back it up with the bible,quoting
the obvious which just goes unseen if you are not "searching"
with a purpose.May Jehovah bless you and your loved ones Sir
Oswald.Peace........un_1

23

WTS predicts its own demise in 11/15 Watchtower

by Stealth in

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friends

the second study article of the november 15, 2001 watchtower is entitled jehovah is our refuge.

on page 19 under the subheading.

no calamity will befall us in paragraph 14 the following is stated:.

unbaptized_1

Does this get me off the newbie wacko list?
If not,what the heck,a very thin line between
genius and insanity,prophet and prognosticator.
Regarding TWBTS,in order to save it,(or rather what
is still of benefit to Jehovah's sheep)they will just
about have to destroy it.But be careful in your harsh
criticisms or joyful outbursts over their comeuppance,
for that will only signal that Jehovah will now focus
attention outside of His organization,having started the
cleansing of His own house first.A reformation back to
the 2 original commands of Jesus Christ is the only way
back to balance and truth.May Jehovah's will prevail.
Un_1

6

I found this on the WTS website concerning the UN

by Leander in

this is actually posted under the first massive thread about the society and un, but i thought maybe it should have a post dedicated to this shocking softening of opinion.. my original post was as follows:.

i just shared the information with my wife about the society and the un.

she then replied that this situation was no different than paul making use of the goverment to further the preaching work.

unbaptized_1

Cyber,

This is as fine a response as any I could ever
imagine, seen under these circumstances.Such kindly
and loving words,redirecting the "real" issue at hand.
May Jehovah bless you and reveal greater wisdom and
insight to you.
Un_1

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"Do Not Irritate". Total Dub Garbage.

by Englishman in

jw
friends

"you fathers, do not be irritating your children but go on bringing them up in the self regulating mental blah blah blah".. good grief, how many times did the wtbts trot out that old chestnut?

as a kid it drove me nuts, as a father of several children it did indeed irritate me beyond measure because of its appalling mis-application.. you want to know why it was so irritating?

because the boyz n' brooklyn interpreted it as follows, something like this:.

unbaptized_1

Englishman,

You would think that any organization claiming the universal
sovereign as their god could dispense insight and wisdom that
reflected such a being.I dare say that these articles we read
now days are just archived material with a novice at the helm
who is diseminating information regarding "truth".Who really is
steering the ship in Brooklyn?It is still the right,basic and
only religion holding up the name Jehovah before it,but it is
quite obvious that a shake up is coming,soon.Oh,pardon me,I was
speaking only for myself regarding right,basic religion holding
up Jehovah's Name.Peace to you Englishman,and your point was on
the money,unfortunately for God's organization.
un_1

23

We're Better than Jehovah's Witnesses

by joelbear in

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friends

this certainly becomes clear very quickly when you see what love those here in our community have for each other.

its unconditional love too.. why, no one ever minds if you disagree with them or their personal experiences.

too, even if a disagreement arises it is handled in a loving manner with each individual showing respect for his brothers and sisters.. truly the on line community of jehovahs-witness.com shines as a light to the world as a beacon of hope, that, if our example was followed, peace, love and happiness would reign over a wonderful renewed planet, inhabited by people who have found a real peace of mind and ability to share their space with all.. truly, all jehovah's witnesses should want to join us in our wonderful land of freedom, where nothing can ever go rong.

unbaptized_1

Joelbear,

Imagine if America The Beautiful,our home and easily
the best place to live on earth,ever fulfilled it's high
ideals and intended purposes?I would kiss off the talk of
"the kingdom" so fast, it would make heads spin.Reality is
something we cannot ignore,just because we as a nation are
in pain over a hateful and inconceivable act of horror.It
means if you are a person who claims Jesus Christ as your
savior,you should read this:Matt.6:10.
I have spent 6 years as a reservist,dd214 to prove it,
and believe that there ARE THINGS WORTH FIGHTING AND DYING
FOR IN LIFE,REGARDLESS OF GOD'S FUTURE INTENTIONS FOR ALL
OF US,ONE KINGDOM OR ANOTHER.There is NO AUTHORITY except
by God,and the worlds governments stand as they do by his
allowance of it and not some sort of inherent ability to
hold on to such power by men.Romans 13:1.We are already
creating much hardships on the women and children of the
land where we are now preparing to invade.If we kept our
eyes focused on Afghanistan,we could easily kill bin laden
with a precise and very heavy strike,delivered with the
baddest of intentions.Why is it,that when we needed those
airlines to keep their employees on the payroll,riding out
these times in "unity",that they could just send 100,000
people packing into the unemployment lines?It was their own
lack of oversight that permitted this evil to be brought to
fruition.America is already a super power in decline,if you
just look at our infrastructure and inner cities.You lose
your kingdom from within long before from without,Joelbear.
Daniel 4:29-32.Like Belshazzar the lame king of Babylon,
stupidity has brought down even the grandest of kingdoms,
Daniel 4:1-6,and 26-30.This conflict that is democracy and
capitalism,is a house divided,sure to implode one day soon,
like nearly in 1987,and exactly as in 1929.Ezekiel 7:19.
I do not look forward to what must be the words of Christ
being fulfilled upon our generation,but this world is in a
sorrowful condition,and we sit insulated from it's worst
social and political ills.We will be getting our own taste
of this bitter cup we will drink soon.I say follow the laws
of the land and pay your taxes,that is a patriot and good
citizen of the highest virtue.Finally,I MUST SAY WITH MUCH
HUMILITY,THAT IF THIS IS A WEBSITE OF CHRIST THAT IS SHOWING
TRUE LOVE AND CHRISTIAN UNITY,I WILL NOT DISRESPECT YOUR HELD
BELIEFS REGARDING SUCH A FEELING.lUKE 6:37.And to conclude this
reply,Christ said it best....Luke 12:49,51-53.God bless you,
Joelbear. Unbaptized_1

16

The Watchtower magazine will cease soon.

by unbaptized_1 in

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friends

due to the fact that god almighty jehovah,.

is displeased over the "divisiveness" of this once very.

worthy publication,and also that the "oversight" is as.

unbaptized_1

Due to the fact that God Almighty Jehovah,
is displeased over the "divisiveness" of this once very
worthy publication,and also that the "oversight" is as
poor as it can get without bringing reproach on His own
Name,soon this publication will in fact cease.Let it now
and henceforth be known,that the "faithful and discreet
slave",is not even in touch with the real lives of the
flock it has been entrusted with caring for.The days we
now live in require a new kind of teacher,who will still
instruct according to Jehovah's scriptually expressed and
known will,but also be given the kind of insight and deep
wisdom,along with discernment and understanding,befitting
The Universal Sovereign,Jehovah God.

The first rule that will govern these men will
be what Christ Jesus commanded at Matt. 22:37-39.It is just
this simple,friends.How will they differ as shepherds that
will stand apart from the many divisions that are being now
allowed to "fester" without redress?When what is spoken of
on Jehovah's behalf ahead of time,comes to then pass within
a reasonable period,then it should be enough for the right
hearted to then follow.With the annointed class either frail
beyond capability to direct,or passng away in death,then the
most well taught of slaves who LOVE JEHOVAH, AND REALLY,ALL MEN,
will now be stepping forth with a very bright light that is
NOT of our own design or concept abilities.

We have been fully and perfectly instructed in what
Jehovah felt was necessary training for the days ahead yet to be.
It will make the WTC disaster,and all other tragedies ever to come
upon mankind and earth(except for the great flood,yes Jehovah has
all the bases covered)look as if nothing when compared.LOVE is all
that will save you,so learn it,Jehovah's way,and the sooner you put
it into practice,the better.1 Corinthians 13:1-13.No lip service will
escape the notice of Christ's appointed angelic judges.I have no part
in such matters as those,for no man of flesh is fit to,not one man.
Mercy over judgement,is the True God's way of directing men of faith.
Finally,1 peter 4:17,18 are in effect.So,remember 1 Peter 4:8.More to
follow and all are welcomed to e-mail or post replies.Do not engage
me in trivial debates and semantics that arise from your "knowledge"
of Jehovah,because I have it and have been instructed by the Holy
Spirit and refined by Jehovah Himself.The days of real instruction
lay just ahead,and there is ONLY ONE SINGULAR PURPOSE TO MY ENTIRE
EXISTENCE,THAT BEING "THE SANCTIFICATION OF JEHOVAH'S GREAT AND HOLY
NAME" BY HIS SON JESUS CHRIST,WHO ASSURES ME BY THE SPIRIT THAT HE IS
GOING TO STAND NEAR TO BRING THIS ABOUT,JUST SO......................
FOR ALL THINGS ARE FROM JEHOVAH AND BY JEHOVAH AND ALL GLORY BELONGS
ONLY TO JEHOVAH FOREVER AND EVER THROUGH JESUS CHRIST,AMEN.Peace to
all and we will speak again.
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