Yes, they are drinking alcohol. As long as they don't do it at a birthday party, their parents don't care!!
Penn
funny teenie-bopper website: http://come.to/jwgirls these girls need a serious boinking (on the head you pervs!
) who is willing to bet they have this site to boy-hunt?
lol .
Yes, they are drinking alcohol. As long as they don't do it at a birthday party, their parents don't care!!
Penn
i went out the other day to find a j-dub to share the gospel with.
i met a young man and invited him over to my house {tonight} and decided i would ask him a lot of questions, and gradually show him in a myriad of witness pubs that the jw's are false prophets.
my questiuon to you all is...... do you think he will want to split once i show him these things (realizing that i am an 'apostate') or do you think he will want to know the truth.
I went out the other day to find a J-dub to share the gospel with. I met a young man and invited him over to my house {tonight} and decided I would ask him a lot of questions, and gradually show him in a myriad of witness pubs that the JW's are False Prophets. My questiuon to you all is...... Do you think he will want to split once I show him these things (realizing that I am an 'apostate') or do you think he will want to know the truth. He has only been with them for a year. I would appreciate your suggestions,
Penn
...suffering was not so bad.
his "perfection" and understanding of the situation would certainly have mitigated his suffering.. his death was not really death, not in any meaningful sense.
it was a 15 second nap, using bible reasoning.
Imagine having the flesh of your back ripped off, suffocating and dying on a roman cross......and being God! Knowing the compete intimate details of those driving nails into your hands and feet. Just so people can get on the internet 2millenium later and say that what happened to you wasn't so bad.
Penn
not sure if there are any active jw's here.
i think i've seen a few floating around.
(i'm not talking about obvious lunatics like you know but an average jw) here's my question.. were all the bible writers prophets?
Cygnus said- As far as biblical support, well, most Bible prophets were wrong, or they misbehaved, or did something along the way to incur the wrath of the Almighty.
Curious, what are some good examples of prophets in the Bible being 'wrong'?
Penn
ok, i have a few comments/questions i would like to throw out there for someone to answer who is devoted to the wtbts.. first of all, in light of yesterday's tragedy, we saw horrible destruction.
according to the wt manual "you can live in paradise on earth', everybody on earth will be destroyed on the day of armageddon except jw's.
there are a myriad of pictures in their literature, discussing this subject.... of people being pummeled with hailstones, widespread fires, buildings toppling over onto thousands, the earth swallowing up kids, cars, widespread panic, etc.
BTW, in light of other posts, Unclepenn is a guy. Sorry for the confusion. I will try and post a more manly picture. Thanks for the warm welcome though.
Penn
ok, i have a few comments/questions i would like to throw out there for someone to answer who is devoted to the wtbts.. first of all, in light of yesterday's tragedy, we saw horrible destruction.
according to the wt manual "you can live in paradise on earth', everybody on earth will be destroyed on the day of armageddon except jw's.
there are a myriad of pictures in their literature, discussing this subject.... of people being pummeled with hailstones, widespread fires, buildings toppling over onto thousands, the earth swallowing up kids, cars, widespread panic, etc.
OK, I have a few comments/questions I would like to throw out there for someone to answer who is devoted to the WTBTS.
First of all, in light of yesterday's tragedy, we saw horrible destruction. According to the WT manual "You can live in paradise on earth', everybody on earth will be destroyed on the day of Armageddon except JW's. There are a myriad of pictures in their literature, discussing this subject.... of people being pummeled with hailstones, widespread fires, buildings toppling over onto thousands, the earth swallowing up kids, cars, widespread panic, etc. Just really horrendous stuff. My question is, if the JW's will not be wiped out with the rest, just how long do you think it will take all the JW's in the world to clean up the mess? If it takes weeks/months to clean up the remains of a few buildings in NY, how many hundreds of years will it take to clean up every house, office, skyscraper etc in the whole world? How many years will it take to clean up 6 BILLION dead bodies?(Roughly 1,500 bodies per dub) Not to mention the stench that will seldom go away.I have also never seen pictures of the 'New World' in their literature that show anything but wheelbarrows and hand made tools and such. Since Tractors will not be in the New world cause of pollution, and we know there is no pollution in the New World, it will all be done by hand and I guess, according to covers of Awake!, wheelbarrows. (Although I am uncertain who will be in charge of making wheelbarrows). I also wonder who will break up all the concrete, and where all this stuff will go. Trash, buildings, bodies, streets, concrete, etc.
I think we are talking hundreds of years of hard manual labor! Consider this the next time you see the bright cheerful faces in the drawings of Awake! and WT. propagating the blessed New World.
Penn
P.S. Also, if people pay for their own sin by death, and JW's are ushered into the New World without dying, who is going to pay for their sin?!
i've read alot of posts about the mean, jealous god of the bible most were brought up to know.
i myself have often wondered why a loving god would kill innocent people(flood, soddom & gommorah, the egyptian sons, and why wouldn't he give adam & eve a 2nd chance?
jw's say they knew what they were to do and they defiantly disobeyed so they have no chance of a resurecction).
If Jesus was a great teacher, yet claimed to be the Son of God and wasn't, then he was not a great teacher at all, for he was a liar.
Also, does God have the right to destroy his own creation?
Discuss it amongst yourselves...
Penn
Oh Yea, God was nailed to a cross in 33 AD to save me. Hmm, seems pretty loving to me :)
i have been on several witness mb's sporatically within the last couple of years.
hanging on one for a while, then hangin on another.
how long has this one been here?
I have been on several Witness MB's sporatically within the last couple of years. Hanging on one for a while, then hangin on another. How long has this one been here? I used to be on Hourglass and also one that looked exactly like this one, but was only for Dub's and did not allow any 'apostate' talk on it. I was booted from there after several posts, but I am relieved to see that there are free thinkers here. Did this used to be heavily monitored or am I thinking of someplace else?
Thanks,
Penn
i have a question that has been buggin me for quite some time.
jesus repeatedly warns against false prophets, and in fact, 26 of the 27 books of the new testament contain warnings about false teaching/prophecies.
<i>now</i>, you would think after reading those statements in the nt, that people would flee an organization after it makes false prophecies.
I have a question that has been buggin me for quite some time. Jesus repeatedly warns against false prophets, and in fact, 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament contain warnings about false teaching/prophecies. <i>Now</i>, you would think after reading those statements in the NT, that people would flee an organization after it makes false prophecies. I am not writing this to offend or be flippant in any way, I am just curious as to what causes a person to stay in a group that is notorious for making many claims that never came to pass. I ask this with all humility and sincerity. I am in the process of collecting old WT books and I plan on sharing these things with the witnesses in my neighborhood. I would love to hear any suggestions as to why people stick around. What do they tell them to make them think they are still in 'the truth' even after so many blatant deceptions.
Thanks so much,
Penn