E-watchmysitecositsreallythetroof wrote a whole essay entitled 'Are you saying you are a prophet' in response to my question of the same name. I was writng in my 'outraged dub' guise at the time. I know it is wrong but I couldn't help it - he is such an arrogant twit. I wrote several questions in various guises such as 'outraged' 'outraged dub' 'apostodub' 'easily-led dub' 'totally-gullible-aren't-you-wonderful-mr-e-watchman dub' 'please help me dub' and vaious others too numerous to mention. It used to pull the chain of a few of the repondents on the guest book too. Naughty, I know, but such fun. Now he has a discussion board all the fun has gone out of it. Shame.
Posts by uriah
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11more ewatchman blarney
by czarofmischief inin conclusion, the final part of the days is a concluding period of time, exactly as the expression implies, during which jehovah disciplines and refines his people and afterwards brings the world into judgment with himself.
contrary to the watchtower's teaching, the world-ending finale known as the final part of the days has not commenced yet.
i'm not going through his tiresome essays, once again, but his latest has come to exactly the same conclusion that all the others have: watch out!
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30 Years a WT Slave
by uriah ini have just finished reading this book.
i imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel.
how wrong i was.
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uriah
Thanks for your comments. I have read a number of the books, CoC ISOCF, Apoc Delay'd, Signof times, 4 presidents of JW, GTReconsidered and now 30YAWTS. They all have something to bring to the table and help one to understand better the system. I thought that the 30YAWTS was diffrent in that it did not really dwell on the doctrines, if at all, but rather on the mechanics of the machine - a relentless machine that consumed human beings without regard. I read a book on psychopathic organisations, I forget the title now, but the WTS fits the bill totally. Between 1921-1931 three quarters of the original bible students left, just a Rutherford planned. Without them the newbies would not be influenced. There is a constant churn of new members so the WTS is not really bothered by the scandles and the like because all the dis-affected 'trouble-makers' will leave and the new reruits will take their places, ignorant of the facts or what has transpired and being new and raw recruits, eager to knuckle down amd say yes brother, no brother three bags full brother.
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Do You Really Think The wt Feel The Outrage Felt On This Site?
by Celtic in.
i don't think they get it yet.
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uriah
No. Having just read 30 years a wt slave, I now understand that from 1921-1931 three-quaters of the original JW had left, which was the plan. No 'old-timers' to remind the new recruits of the failings. As new converts come in they are riding the crest of the WT wave and see no evil. Those ones don't read this board. Out with the old in with the new. When you undertand it is about bookselling (sorry, contibuting) you realise they don't give a fiddlers fart about those that have left, there are plenty more to take your place - and thiers when they eventually wake up and smell the coffee. We can read and write to this board until the cows come home, it makes no difference in the end - the WTBTS is a psychopatic organisation and does not feel regret - how else can you explain Malawi and others. I think this board has more to do with grieving - venting your spleen, telling your story, supporting others not so advanced in the process and warning those who have strayed here in defiance, and finally leading as normal a life as possible. If the WT gets a few potshots aimed at it in the course of this, well then that is a bonus.
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Feild service just became totally optional. July 1 watchtower 2004.
by XQsThaiPoes in"today we likewise do not use fear or simular negative emotions, such as shame, to coerce others into obeying christ.
only whole souled obedience based on love for god and christ makes jehovahs heart rejoyce.".
so if you feel half-a* about door knocking stay home..
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uriah
If you haven't already read it, I recomend the book 30 years a WT slave. It gives the details of why and how the FM started. Also, quite revealing in the way the persecution was orchestrated to get sensational news coverage. Whereas CoC lifts the lid on doctrine etc, 30YAWTS lifts the lid off the mechanics of the mind control. FM anyone, the weather is so good today we could spend a whole day in Kingdom Service NOT!!
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30 Years a WT Slave
by uriah ini have just finished reading this book.
i imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel.
how wrong i was.
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uriah
I have just finished reading this book. I imagined that it was a story about slavery at bethel. How wrong I was. I found it a facinating report on the mind control techniques used in the early days. We tend to think of mind control as a fairly recent thing. It expired (for those who have not read it) that all JW are the slaves, this state being 'scripturally' proven by linking the gibeonites with the mass of rank and file JW who 'became the hewers of wood and water carriers' of the 'spiritual israelites' aka Rutherford et-al. Has any one any comments on this book?. I found it totally different to the other books about JW in that it dwelt more on the mechanics than doctrine. I recommend it.
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"The BIBLE said that all these things would....that was alive in 1914."
by hubert ini haven't read all the posts in this forum yet.
so, i apologize if this was covered before.
i found a statement written by "god's channel of communication" in the "you can live forever in paradise on earth" book, c.1982, page 154, par.
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uriah
This piccy was on a recent post from where I nicked it - sorry I don't have the postee's details but all kudos to them for it - I think it says it all. From the 1st Oct(?) 1987 mag
Found the link - here you go www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/74078/1.ashx: .
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Why is there death and suffering?
by hooberus inwhy is there death and suffering?
a biblical perspective.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/death_suffering.asp.
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uriah
Come on satanus, click the link and save bandwith charges and slow loading.
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A Little Taste Of What You're Missing....
by Englishman inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sol/ukfs_sport/hi/av/bb_rm_fs.stm?nbram=1&news=1&bbwm=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1
click on "select a programme".
then "euro 2004 highlights".. then take a peek at mighty england.
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uriah
COME-ON ENGLAND and don't cock it up at the end like you did with france COME-ON ENGLAND COME-ON ENGLAND COME-ON ENGLAND
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Deception in the Greatest Man Book
by truthseeker ini was browsing channelc.org and came across this.
how would one follow jehovah?
do the will of the organization and you would be doing jehovah?s will.
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Through the office of your son ...amen. You got off light. we used to have a billion superlatives - In the name of your son whom you the great purposer and desginer, sent to this earth.......20 mins later..and through the offices of your son.....20 mins.. amen The problem with religions is they all want you to obey them. Jesus said the two things that matter are - Love God and your neighbour as yourself. If you accept that Jesus is your salvation and follow those two edicts then everything else just falls away. I remember as a child being dragged up as a dub thinking if Jesus' load is light and he provides refreshment for your soul, why am I being pounded with all this stuff, If many books is wearisome to the soul, why are there so many books at the KH. The answer is that we are obeying men and being brain dubbed by them.
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Charles Russell Website - great information
by run dont walk in.
this guy did his homework, check out this site, has most, if not all russell's zion's watchtower mags and other info, great source for information, and history on the cult we all got out of.. www.ctrussell.us/.
hope i did the link right
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uriah
This is a good site for research. I noted that the old WT has the prices in old english money too, maybe they were english versions. For those not familiar with Old english money here is a short tutorial, or a trip down memory lane: 20 shillings (s or /- eg 1s 1/-) to the £ 12 pennies (d) to the shilling 240 pennies to the pound sterling (252 for a guinea) 480 halfpennies to the £ (pronounced ha'penny) 960 farthings to the £ Coinage: Farthing (1/4 penny) Halfpenny Penny Three penny piece (thre'pennybit)(silver three penny coin (joey) for those really old - if still alive) Six pence (tanner) Shilling (bob) 2 shilling coin (two bob) Half-a-crown (2/6d two-and-six or half a dollar) Crown (5 bob or a dollar) Ten bob note (10/-) Pound note (quid) tenners and twenty's To show how we were ripped off with decimalisation: Pre decimal you could get 960 blackjacks for a quid after you could only get 480 ah, those were the days