the smiley face should be right about directly above the underline option. clicking that gets you these:
edited because 5000 of those just don't line up right. ;(
clueless, that is.
i got a lovely send in my inbox but i can't reply to it (i get a page not found message--same thing i get when i try to edit a post).
i suspect my problem is that i have a macintosh (os x) and use netscape.
the smiley face should be right about directly above the underline option. clicking that gets you these:
edited because 5000 of those just don't line up right. ;(
did you get made fun of when you were in school?
i'm curious to know because when i was in junior high i was constantly picked on made fun of and the butt of many jokes.
even remembering that hurts till this day.
Suprisingly I didn't get picked on as much as most witness kids seem to have been. I was just as shy, quiet and reserved (hey, no different from now!) but I was pretty damn good at sports The other kids seemed to have more pity for me than anything I think. Teachers gave me hell though. I gave in one day after being threatened for not saying the pledge and I felt sick after I had done it. That's one of the worst things - as a jw kid you're caught in the middle and each side (parents/WT v. teachers/etc.) tries to force you to comply with THEIR views.
i have worked with many islamic men.
most all were from iran (persia), syria, jordan, palestine, and egypt.
all were either sunni or shiite.
Is there a deferred martyrdom plan? Like say oh, 50 virgins (NOT Virginians) up front in the here and now - with the rest to be reserved for the there and then?
it's quite draining to have your "bs" detector running on high alert for 4 straight hours, so, by the time the clapping was done for all the baptism candidates filing out to change clothes, i'd managed to move it's setting to low power standby.
after a recharge of sandwiches, chips, washed down by now room temperature soda, i decided that i'd take a walk around the general area.
inside the perimeter area of the astrodome, jw's young and old had filed out and filled the area.
off topic as usual but here I go.
Sometime in the early 70's, my family went to Houston for an Astrodome assembly. One muggy place that Houston. Of course I was only interested in checking out the stadium and remembering the football and baseball games I'd seen played there (tv). Somehow, I was let loose one day to go to Astroworld all by myself. That was the only problem with that - I was all by myself. But it was better than sitting in the Astrodome pretending to be listening to the boring talks. Learned how to swim there too - a couple of witness girls staying at the same motel taught me Assemblies can be fun as long as you stay away from the...er, assemblies.
proplog2.. wrote this on another thread, and i would like to hear from others who may not have had a suicide in their own families to reply as well.
do you think that the jw religion has at least some blame or bloodguilt over some of the jw suicides?
i personally know they do, not all cases i am sure, but i know a large amount of them are cult related jw.......... remember we are not talking about just another religion, but a mind controlled cult known as jw's.
Here's one for ya.
One of my nephew's some 12 years ago was severely depressed and was seeking a way to end it all. From all accounts he had mental problems to start with (I hadn't seen him in years) but he had just survived a motorcycle accident albeit with head injuries and other physical damage. My sister was the passenger in the accident and has been quadraplegic since. To say the least, his mind was stressed.
He knew my mom was a witness and talked to her frequently, especially about hell and eternal damnation. I was there one day when the topic came up and it was obvious he wanted out and wanted confirmation from my mom that there is no hell so he wouldn't be tormented for killing himself. My mom was like most witnesses in wanting to "give a witness" and proudly told what she knew - how death was the end. No more pain, no more suffering and certainly no devil to burn you up forever and ever... get the picture. He was ready to do it and she was, without sensing what he was up to, giving him the go ahead. I was shocked and had to get her away from him quick. I told her why he was asking and at least she realized she needed to be more careful what she was saying to him.
He didn't go through with it mainly I think because he didn't know of a pain free way. He hated the thought of more pain. I don't know what has become of him since either but knowing how troubled he was and the fact that no one has heard from him in years makes me think he found a way.
one of my witness family members agreed to take a look at crisis of conscience, and after.
perusing the first couple of chapters, said that she thought it could be all made up.
agreed that the documents presented could be legitimate, but as far as franz's personal.
JH, if the topics interest you even in the slightest, you ought to be able to read it in about two days! (only half joking)
one of my witness family members agreed to take a look at crisis of conscience, and after.
perusing the first couple of chapters, said that she thought it could be all made up.
agreed that the documents presented could be legitimate, but as far as franz's personal.
Interestingly typical. My mom read some of CoC but wanted to know what right Ray Franz had to many of the letters etc. included in the book. That I don't have an answer to but would like to know. But as already pointed out, if he had 'taken them illegally' he would surely have been dragged into court by the WT.
what do you think it is?
The everlasting life hook has to be the top draw. That of course is only attractive with the growing young again - unless you happen to be younger than 30 already then in that case you grow old - to 30. You would think that in a 'perfect world' you'd not only be able to pick your age but change it at will. :)
If you are 5 or 6 then they hook you with the desire to play with the lions and tigers.
Housing: I too remember jw's talking about how they'd own all the nice new homes in the richest areas of town(s). Then one day my mother said something that took me aback and still gives me the chills. She mentioned how in all likelyhood, the armageddon survivors would live in ASSIGNED housing! Like the NY WT housing of this old system! That's paradise???? Scenes of '1984' flash through my mind.
..knew I forgot something.
I was also told that sex would be a thing of the past too. Jehovah would just remove that, uh, desire. lol Again, that's paradise???
ok, here's the deal.. way back when i got df'd i kinda went wild.
started riding motorcycles, wore rock group t-shirts, got 3 earrings in my left ear, got a tattoo, and grew my hair long.
i had to cut it once back in '93 because my employer said to.
Could try uh, rearranging it some. Tail in the front. Only it wouldn't technically be a tail then would it. More like a tassle. hehe
I just came out of a few days feeling extremely low and as if I were 'losing it'. That hadn't happened in a LONG time (used to be constant) and I hope it was just a fleeting thing. Not a fun place to be. Anyway, last night I was talking to a relative and she is really depressed right now. We had a long talk and I came out of it feeling better about myself. So maybe if you find someone to talk to who's worse off....(j/k...kinda).