Greetings,
I think that these conspiracy nutters like MA and skally do much more harm here than good. This paranoic spreading of disinformation and misinformation,conspiracy and cliques harms the credibility of those seriously working against the WTS.
This paranoic ranting also influences new ones who are just coming aboard. They both have shown severe imbalance,in their posts re:wts.
These wacko theories will serve to alienate any serious contributers or outside interested ones from taking the issues seriously. We can't afford to be discredited by the actions of these 2.
Tina- and rant away skally,you spiraled down so far you've lost the ability of critical thinking.You can no longer recognize the real from the fantasy. I hope you have some peeps in real life who truly care for your mental well-being,because it's beyond meds and therapy here.Inpatient time.
Valentine
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Regarding MAD APOSTATE
by silentlambs ini wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
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Regarding MAD APOSTATE
by silentlambs ini wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
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madap,
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Resignation - not that it matters at all, but ....
by TheOldHippie ini just wanted those kind-hearted, those gentle, those friendly ones of you to know that i wrote my letter of resignation as an elder yesterday, after having served in that capasity for 24 years.. those wishing to call me or any society "bastard", "sucker", "braindead" or anything, as they have before, i would ask please to refrain from that.
other comments would be welcome.. somehow, it is the armstrong quote about "one small step for man, one giant leap for humankind" (approximately) the other way around, "one giant leap for (a) man, one hardly noticeable step for humankind".. ok, that was that.
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Hi Hippie,
Making such a hard life decision takes real courage.And that you have! Wishing you the best on your life journey.hugs,Tina -
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Regarding MAD APOSTATE
by silentlambs ini wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
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MadAp troll,
If I want shit from you I'd squeeze your head STFU>Tina -
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THE EX-[ELDERS] FILES: EYES WIDE SHUT
by AMNESIAN in(dont let the title scare or piss you off.
stay with it to the end---even if it takes you a while---and then, if you wish, by all means get pissed as you wanna be.
(final edit, thursday, january 10, 2002, 11:00 a.m. pst, usa).
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ahhhh Amnesian dear,
Don't be surprised to find others like amazing here. Men with WT mindsets that expect,no make that demand ,one behave in the nicey nice,wear your pearls ,whilst speaking in soft-lady like tones you were trained at. It's that power and control thang that feeds their obese egos they drag around with them.Also some women who still carry over the ladylike civility a la WTS. You'll know them by their posts. They bought into that definition of 'the good woman' but forgot to return that old used up costume to the store lol. Real assertive competant outspoken women scare them,because they havent realized the status quo changed long ago. Pollyana is dead and buried. Civil=little ladylike kow-towing here.Tina
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JW Child Labor--Prince v. Massachusetts
by JAVA inwhile doing some research, i came across a united states supreme court case the society lost in 1944 on the topic of child labor.
the two paragraphs below are from, odd gods, new religions & the cult controversy, edited by james r. lewis, prometheus books, new york, 2001, pp.
78-9.. "one of the earliest cases involving children in a religious setting was prince v. massachusetts (1944).
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Hi Java,
Excellent find there! And quite applicable to jw children.Thanks!hugs,Tina -
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THE EX-[ELDERS] FILES: EYES WIDE SHUT
by AMNESIAN in(dont let the title scare or piss you off.
stay with it to the end---even if it takes you a while---and then, if you wish, by all means get pissed as you wanna be.
(final edit, thursday, january 10, 2002, 11:00 a.m. pst, usa).
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bttt
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MY MUMS IS DIEING O F CANCER?
by mark smith inmy mums in hospital in nottingham england she is a current jw and has stomach cancer.she is a lovley mum but has been brain washed not to have the blood so they left the opp to build her up.
because she would need blood during the opp if she is weak she will die on the opp table.but she has got worse and weaker so now am losing my mum through waiting.she would have had a chance.
but now it looks like she has 2 weeks of life left.why???
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((((((((mark)))))))))))
I am so sorry what you are going thru.The others here have given you great suggestions.
I lost my dad to cancer too,it's rough.Hang in there luv,Tina -
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THE EX-[ELDERS] FILES: EYES WIDE SHUT
by AMNESIAN in(dont let the title scare or piss you off.
stay with it to the end---even if it takes you a while---and then, if you wish, by all means get pissed as you wanna be.
(final edit, thursday, january 10, 2002, 11:00 a.m. pst, usa).
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Greetings Amnesian
Good to see you back! And with a stellar to the point post!
Yes,often times some men who leave the WTS take some of the mindsets with them.It shows by the postings where their 'head is at'.
Illl comment more when time allows.Thank you so much for saying what needs to be said.And over and over till it sinks into a few heads.luv,Tina -
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Farewell to all
by Amazing ini already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
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Ginny,
Im not going to get into the issues right now.But I will say one thing.I asked you via email if we could discuss it there.I was not up for a dissection,yet you ignored my request anyay,"I feel it is presumptuous for me to judge the behavior of anyone but myself" your words.
But then you preceded to do just that. Tina