the following are two emails (one mine, one from an elder) that are part of an exchange regarding the unfairness of shunning.
he is an elder and a substitute of the c.o.
he comes from a "highly decorated" family of jw's.
Millions of people have stopped attending religious services in many different denominations, because they have had a change of heart. But the fact that it happens does not prove their former faith to be wrong.
Aren't JW's the only true religion? His argument is invalid. LOL
Others have stopped caring about the public in general and no longer witness about God's truths as they used to before.
Yes, because the WT does so much for the general public, don't they?
Amazing.
Alec
chatter on the street is that there exists a very high possiblility of the new newworld translation being distributed.
it comes from a reliable sources, but who knows.
has anyone heard anything about this?.
I agree WhatHappened.
I've also been thinking, since my awakening I started studying and using websites like bible.cc to compare translations. I like that one as it has commentary references too. After comparing several scriptures IMO there are way better modern translations out there as far as the NWT is concerned. So why would Jehovah leave his people with an inferior translation when Christendom has got it better?
Seems strange. LOL
Alec
there is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.
any other rumors about new releases?.
Brother of the Hawk,
I'd like to make a comment about the Book of Enoch.
It surprised me to find out (after my awakening) that Jude's reference to Enoch in Jude 1:14-15 is very similar to what is found in the book of Enoch, and Wikipedia also points to 2 Peter 2:4-5 and 1 Peter 3:19-20 as references to Enochian material.
Now, the more I read about the development of the bible canon the more I see the changeable position of the church on just what should be part of it or not. Heck, the fact that the WT teaches that after the death of John the 'congregation' as they call it was already showing signs of 'apostate' corruption should make one wonder why the WT itself simply went along with the mainstream when making their own translation of the bible. (Because if they made too different a translation they'd have to revise their teaching? They'd been using 'worldly' translations before.)
If I still believed in the bible, I'd write to the WT and ask them why a book like the Book of Enoch which is clearly referenced in the bible was not included in theirs, especially since the development of the canon wasn't a given, like God saying, "these are it, the books".
Just a thought,
Alec
this is so a made up example .
written as ifs it was real .
whats your opinion ?.
An elder told me last year when I was still going that they were not supposed to give talks from the platform using iPads not to make the brothers and sisters who couldn't afford one want one.
Alec
Each day we do not get a setp closer to Armageddon.
lol
Alec
hi everyone, there is a rumor on a french speaking forum saying that the elders were to assist to a 9 h meeting,yesterday or today depending on availability, about pedophilia exclusively.
meeting directed by an circuit overseer.
more infos to come.
Wow, if it is confirmed to be true and they didn't even allow mobile phones on during their meeting, that would really tells us something about the WT's trust in their elders and the overall state of the affairs in the congregations.
Alec
i have been skimming the magazine this morning, and the whole issue seems designed to keep the flock at the kh.
yes, i know this is not exactly " new " information.
still with all the problems the organization is having, this one just seemed to strike me as odd.
Could it be that in choosing this year's text they took into account the real bad things that were/are happening to them--lack of money, Candace Conti, the Australia court case, etc. and so braced themselves in for a difficult year?
And since non-sensical new light always causes them to lose followers, and they have one of the worst if not the worst retention rate, that must also \have weighed in their minds when choosing the year text. I wonder how many left the borg last year or how many became inactive and what bearing that also may have had.
Alec
1. mark 7:15 "there is nothing from outside a man that passes into him that can defile him; but the things that issue forth out of a man are the things that defile a man.. so how can eating black pudding or having a blood transfusion be a sin?.
2. roman 14:5 one [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as others; let each one be convinced in his own mind.
so how come they say birthdays and festivals are a sin?.
I like this thread.
Alec
"well osts, satan, through adam challenged god's right to rule......so god had to let it play out to show that he really should be the one ruling mankind.
both the angels and humans needed to see this.
me - why couldn't god have allowed adam's children to remain perfect?
LOL perfect Tater-T.
Alec
that's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .
http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.
anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .
The same kids seeing these pictures are watching violent movies with their dad or playing violent games when their parents aren't looking.
The people who make those movies do not claim to be God's sole channel of communication on earth, the only organization through which one can survive the impending destruction of the world, or the FDS.
Or are children not supposed to know that knives exist?
They are not supposed to associate knives with cutting babies.
And how about you read more of someone's posts before pronouncing them a troll, newbie?
Don't worry, I will. I just think it's sick that a publishing company who professes to be God's channel of communication with mankind chooses to make activities for kids which focus on a morbid side of said God. And I personally can't support that, that's all.
Alec
