Thanks Gojira_101, I wonder if future 'new light' will be test-driven on the jw.org first and then they'll take it from there. Of one thing I'm sure, the GB really is making it up as they go...
Alec
since i am still fairly new to this whole "apostate thing" and have only been on jwn for about a month, i have questions for those of you who have been "out" for awhile or have been on here for a long time.. .
i have seen how many new people have joined since i joined, is that something that happens a lot?
having so many people sign up on here?
Thanks Gojira_101, I wonder if future 'new light' will be test-driven on the jw.org first and then they'll take it from there. Of one thing I'm sure, the GB really is making it up as they go...
Alec
gems from the latest km on how to behave at the 2013 dcs..... .
if possible, care for restroom needs before the start of the session.
turn off your cell phone so that you will not be distracted by calls or texts or be tempted to text others during the program.
Christ Almighty, the WT takes micromanagement to a whole new level...I am so looking forward to missing the first of many conventions in years to come and I am not going to miss it at all.
I can now see what many posters meant when they said that now that they are out they can see it ever more clearly what a numbnut crazy piece of crap cult this is...
I may not post daily but I have a blooming laugh every day on this website. And I feel it really helps me now in the healing process of leaving the Borg as I can now see the funny side of it all.
There are so many quick-witted and intelligent people here! You are all amazing.
Thanks a bunch guys!
standing in for atlantis.
i post as [vulcan] with my daughter [petra] who helps as typist.
atlantis said that all of you would know about the download procedures.
Thanks a lot Atlantis, Vulcan, and Petra!
This is an amazing combo. I know more about what really goes on in the Borg than I ever did in 9 years of regular pioneering and I guess 7 (I serioualy can't be asked to remember it accurately) of ministerial servantship.
Thanks!
since i am still fairly new to this whole "apostate thing" and have only been on jwn for about a month, i have questions for those of you who have been "out" for awhile or have been on here for a long time.. .
i have seen how many new people have joined since i joined, is that something that happens a lot?
having so many people sign up on here?
Exactly Amelia, I agree. It's like they've done their big announcement about the 'new light' and are now waiting and gauging the reaction to it. They may even be test-driving this with the way they did it, on the Annual Meeting and online, instead of in a convention. That is so cowardly. It's really weird that Jesus wasn't sure who was the slave for all this time and now that he does, we don't get any explanation of how he arrived at his conclusion.
the year once 1983 and the brother who use to study the bible with me drove by and had a full on "charles manson" looking facial hair and beard.
i asked tina, a friend what's up with him?
tina was 19 and a hot red-head woman who was partially in the religion but had problems with fornication.
My non-JW girlfriend said I looked good when I didn't shave for days before the next meeting and asked me to let my beard grow. So I did. This was before my awakening but even then I had heard of how you might find brothers wearing beards in some places and had tried to explain to my girlfriend why we couldn't have beards. Needless to say, I couldn't present a scriptural basis or logical reasoning for it.
Of course, some people in my congregation looked scared when they saw me, others patronized me and only a couple of friends said I looked good. Well, I 'awoke', saw the truth about the cult so couldn't give a flying toss anymore whether anyone in the congregation likes it, especially since I haven't been to the meetings since the end of last year.
My girlfriend likes it, she says I look better with the beard, and she reasons, "Didn't Jesus have one?"
i think with every year their are more and more newbies that identify with this site , would you like to say " hi ", if you have joined in the last 12 months ?.
does anybody have a graph of the numbers of newbies who have joined in say the last 5 years ?.
i think that would be interesting.
Hi! I joined 28 days ago, finally woken when the GB made themselves the popes of WT infamy.
interesting meeting today.the do had the last talk and he mentioned a couple of things i have not heard before :.
1) the new lighter magazines are designed in a way to attract people to our website .
2)the ministry will change to incoprorate preacing in town centres and and with stands as in manhattan and certain brothers will be allocated to do this .so it is done now in a big scale ,organised.. 3)the qr codes at the back of the magazines are there for smart phone users to guide them directly to jw.org ,unlike bad old internet via laptops and pc's that you have to look for the website on google and sometimes end up in enemy websites that look like our website but are spreading lies about jw's (he said exactly that!
Jesus, that is so pathetic, Londo111 is right: it is way easier to just type jw.org.
Now, when are we getting an article on "Young People Ask: Smartphones--Do I Really Need One?" and questions like,
"Will I be able to afford the rates a 3G Internet connection? Will I have to work extra hours to pay for these? Would this time be better spent in the ministry? Will I be tempted to access pornographic websites and thus put my relationship with Jehovah in jeopardy? Even if I do go to apparently harmless websites, will I be able to control the time I spend surfing the Interweb [how some GB members sometimes think it's called] so as not to neglect more important things?
Jehovah's servants do well to consider such factors before making such an important decision, 'because the days are wicked.' "
That will be shortly before they publish the list of Websites Not To Go To and release an anti-apostate software that blocks you from accessing said websites...
hours after the pope said he was leaving lighting strikes.. see picture on link below.. .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-21427713.
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Hours after the court reached the verdict on the Candace Conti case lightning strikes.
the new light is a bit of give and take by the gb.
they have taken upon themselves the title of the faithful and discreet slave, in exchange for pushing the 'appointment over all of his [christ's] belongings' out into the future, and also in exchange for allowing the earthly class to be counted as 'domestics'.
the gb can now totally lord it as kings over the flock in exchange for having "dignified" them by including them as domestics.
If only any of the R&F dared to think just a little for themselves and wondered how is it that for all this time the 'great crowd' wasn't considered part of the domestics and now, just like that, in the snap of a finger, "Er, well, you know, we've been thinking and actually, yes! The Great Crowd can be considered part of the dometics!"
Where is the evidence/basis on which they base this 'new light' and then what was the evidence/basis on which they based the old one (i.e., the domestics are only anointed ones because only they are in the new covenant [?])?
If only they dared to consider these points from a logical point of view just for a little while.
hi there, as was suggested to me, i'm starting this thread to say hi to everyone.. my awakening began recently, after the new light on the 'slave'.
i felt it didn't add up and went to check and found out ttatt.
for a while i tried to find evidence of whether the wt might still be god's organization, i needn't say i couldn't.. i had already resigned as a ministerial servant and a pioneer, had already had several issues with the elders and did not put up with their nonsense for a long.
LOL Paul/Punkofnince, exactly. When I did my research recently and came across all the stupid generation changes I pinched myself and asked, "Where the hell were you when this happened and how come didn't you realize it sooner?" And then I remembered I was either just not going to meetings, or just trying to solve problems with elders whilst still trying to hang on to my faith. So, now with the New Light (TM) and all the research I did I found all the evidence I needed to see that a lot of the problems that happen inside the org are simply symptomatic of a sick mind-control cult.
God, that's right the GB gets ever more deluded as each day goes by. It's both hilarious and angering at the same time.
Yes, I am waking to the reality that whatever truth is out there has to stand up to scrutiny and be backed up by evidence. I am very open-minded now and I feel that I owe it to myself to research the Bible without WT bias and publications and test everything. I've got an agnostic girlfriend who is very pragmatic about these things, so it's good because her unbiased questioning perspective nudges me in the right direction.
I love this quote from the Sherlock Holmes stories:
"Circumstantial evidence is a very tricky thing. It may seem to point very straight to one thing, but if you shift your own point of view a little, you may find it pointing in an equally uncompromising manner to something entirely different."
Thanks a lot for the support, I will keep posting.
Alec