Thanks for that tidbit of info there Englishman, but umm Prisca already told me that
Ven
abaddon and i were having a discussion in another thread regarding the differences between us patriotism and european patriotism.
apparently some people consider the us to be peopled with rabid flag waving, my country right or wrong, ugly americans.
i am wondering what the general concensus of this board would be?.
Thanks for that tidbit of info there Englishman, but umm Prisca already told me that
Ven
abaddon and i were having a discussion in another thread regarding the differences between us patriotism and european patriotism.
apparently some people consider the us to be peopled with rabid flag waving, my country right or wrong, ugly americans.
i am wondering what the general concensus of this board would be?.
great post Lyin!!!!
I don't agree with a lot this country does, and I have never stated that I did. I do hope the troops stay safe over there because well they're just doing what their told and I'd hate to see anyone get hurt.
I have been to Au and stayed with some locals there as well up in Noosa and had a wonderful time (except for dad driving the rental car, and having to drive on the wrong side of the road and figure out the 'round abouts). I had no problem with the locals being proud of their country which they were and there is much competition between AU and NZ about who's country is better and I just thought it was fun to finally be able to voice that kind of thing.
And calling people ignorant on a general scale is in my mind equally as ignorant. I mean hellooo you don't know each persons experince or opinions. and there is noo need for anyone to get all high and mighty over this or their intentions.
Ven
jwd, .
i've noticed on more than one occasion comments such as this one made in mattnoel's post this morning within the us/patriotism thread: its also very much the world of america, people dont go outside except to canada and mexico.
could it be that we are the only nation out of the long list of major western countries not to have legally mandated vacation days?
It's the wrong side of the road because we arrogant American bastards say it is
Ven
abaddon and i were having a discussion in another thread regarding the differences between us patriotism and european patriotism.
apparently some people consider the us to be peopled with rabid flag waving, my country right or wrong, ugly americans.
i am wondering what the general concensus of this board would be?.
Well one thing I think that needs to be taken into consideration is just the mass of people here in the US. There are probably more Americans that are more patriotic in the US then other countries, by population, and just as many americans that are not, there's just that many americans.
Now that I've totally confused you all and myself is that, the more people there are that support something, the more overpowering that objective will seem. If your teem has 500 fans, and the other team only 50 who's gonna be the loudest? Most obnoxious? it is just the sheer weight of numbers. On a one to one basis, there probably is not as much of a difference between citizens of any country, we all have the same basic needs and are human beings.
Ven
( think the point that some were making i that sometimes it's irritating when people will make an inflammatory post, and then get defensive if someone calls them on it,and then they attempt to make the person that replied look bad, when they were the one to start it in the first place. They know it no matter how innocent they may appear, simply due to the sheer number of times this has happened) It's all about the numbers tonight!!!!
jwd, .
i've noticed on more than one occasion comments such as this one made in mattnoel's post this morning within the us/patriotism thread: its also very much the world of america, people dont go outside except to canada and mexico.
could it be that we are the only nation out of the long list of major western countries not to have legally mandated vacation days?
YAAA and we don't have to worry about passports, currency changes or languages......and we don't have to worry about a bunch a people driving on the wrong side of the road.
That all said I LOVE Europe
Ven
jwd, .
i've noticed on more than one occasion comments such as this one made in mattnoel's post this morning within the us/patriotism thread: its also very much the world of america, people dont go outside except to canada and mexico.
could it be that we are the only nation out of the long list of major western countries not to have legally mandated vacation days?
Good point Mulan. US is a HUGE country and very diverse. In Europe the countries are small and very close together and you can drive though several in a day. Some states here are from 8-10 hours just to drive straight through. The US has 50 large states and each region has a very distinct culture, and even accent. I've lived in Alaska and the northwest, they were both very different not only in climate of the weather but of the residents as well. I now live in FL and let me tell you it's a whole nother world down here, south FL is more like a branch off NY city. The US has an amazing cultural diversity that is esp obvious in the larger cities.
I have also had the privilege of traveling to Europe as well as NZ and AU and I loved it, but I think you will see that America is like several small countries melted into one. I have been to nearly half the states in this country and still have much traveling to do. I don't think you can really compare the two and many people do not have the funds nor the time, or quite frankly the interest to do to some the hostilities about Americans. I mean we can go from the arctic to the tropics in the same day, in the same country, and if you live in the Arctic that's a bonus
Ven
> > > > WHY WE LOVE CHILDREN
> > > >
> > > > A kindergarten pupil told his teacher he'd
> found a cat. She asked him if
> > > it
> > > > was dead or alive. "Dead." She was informed.
> "How do you know?" she
> >asked
> > > > her pupil. "Because I pissed in its ear and it
> didn't move," answered
> >the
> > > > child innocently. "You did WHAT?!?" the
> teacher exclaimed in surprise.
> > > "You > > > > know," explained the boy, "I leaned over and
> went 'Pssst!' and it didn't
> > > > move."
> > > > ___________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A small boy is sent to bed by his father. Five
> minutes later....
> > > "Da-ad...."
> > > > "What? "I'm thirsty. Can you bring drink of
> water?" "No. You had your
> > > > chance. Lights out." Five minutes later:
> "Da-aaaad....." "WHAT?" "I'm
> > > > THIRSTY. Can I have a drink of water??" "I
> told you NO!" If you ask
> >again,
> > > > I'll have to spank you!!" Five minutes
> later...... "Daaaa-aaaad....."
> > > > "WHAT!" "When you come in to spank me, can you
> bring a drink of water?"
> > > >
> __________________________! ______________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An exasperated mother, whose son was always
> getting into mischief,
> >finally
> > > > asked him, "How do you expect to get into
> Heaven?" The boy thought it
> >over
> > > > and said, "Well, I'll run in and out and in
> and out and keep slamming
> >the
> > > > door until St. Peter says, 'For Heaven's sake,
> Dylan,come in or stay
> > > out!'"
> > > >
> _________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One summer evening during a violent
> thunderstorm a mother was tucking
> >her
> > > > son into bed. She was about to turn off the
> light when he asked with a
> > > > tremor i! n his voice, "Mommy, will you sleep
> with me tonight?" The mother
> > > > smiled and gave him a reassuring hug. "I can't
> dear," she said. "I have
> >to
> > > > sleep in Daddy's room." A long silence was
> broken at last by his shaky
> > > > little voice: "The big sissy."
> > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I was six months pregnant with my third
> child, my three year old
> >came
> > > > into the room when I was just getting ready to
> get into the shower. She
> > > > said, "Mommy, you are getting fat!" I replied,
> "Yes, honey, remember
> >Mommy
> > > > has a baby growing in her tummy" "I know," she
> replied, but what's
> >growing
> > > >! ; in your butt?"
> > > >
> _________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A little boy was doing his math homework. He
> said to himself, "Two plus
> > > > five, that son of a bitch is seven. Three plus
> six, that son of a bitch
> >is
> > > > nine...." His mother heard what he was saying
> and gasped, "What are you
> > > > doing?" The little boy answered, "I'm doing my
> math homework, Mom." "And
> > > > this is how your teacher taught you to do it?"
> the mother asked. "Yes,"
> >he
> > > > answered. Infuriated, the mother asked the
> teacher the next day, "What
> >are
> > > > you teaching my son in math?" The teacher
> replied, "Right now, we are
> > > > learning addition."! The mother asked, "And are
> you teaching them to say
> > > two
> > > > plus two, that son of a bitch is four?" After
> the teacher stopped
> > > laughing,
> > > > she answered, "What I taught them was, two
> plus two, THE SUM OF WHICH,
> >is
> > > > four."
> > > >
> _________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One day the first grade teacher was reading
> the story of Chicken Little
> >to
> > > > her class. She came to the part of the story
> where Chicken Little tried
> >to
> > > > warn the farmer. She read, ".... and so
> Chicken Little went up to the
> > > farmer
> > > > and said, "The sky is falling, the sky is
> falling!" The teacher paused > > > then
> > > > asked the class, "And what do you think the
> farmer said?" One little
> >girl
> > > > raised her hand and said, "I think he said:
> 'Holy Shit! A talking
> > > chicken!'"
> > > > The teacher was unable to teach for the next
> 10 minutes.
i woke up with my heart racing this morning.
i had an awful dream that i had gone home to visit my parents and that everybody in my former cong came bye to say hi.
in my dream, all the men had on suits and all the women had on floral dresses.
I've always had flying dreams since I was a kid, used to dream a lot about volcanoes those were really cool in 1st and 2nd grade, and I was terrrified of fire. I have the needing to find a Bathroom dream a lot, either they don't have one, it's flooding, or it's in the middle of the store with no privacy and I spend the dream searching for a bathroom, to wake up to find I have the same pressing need. heheh this is not what I mean by reoccuring dreams.
Reoccurring dreams (these are dreams I had growing up, they occurred from early age like 6 and I had them growing up and they would change slightly with what was going on in my life and people that were in it at the time. But they were generally the same. And sometimes while I was dreaming, I would know this was a reocurring dream)
#1. This was a dream within a dream. In my dream in my dream I’m a JW happy lil jw going in service, to meetings everything like my normal life. Then I wake from the 2 nd dream and it was all just a dream, I’m not a JW there’s not really any such religion I’d dreamed it up and knew that those beliefs were not true and how crazy all that stuff was, and then at this point I would wake up. I would be covered in a cold sweat and terrified at how real it was that the JW’s were not the true religion. I would be terrified and feel so horribly guilty that I must have some doubts somewhere hidden. I would cry and pray to ‘Jah’ for forgiveness and pray for more faith and to do whatever it took to get rid of that doubt. I was too ashamed to tell anyone of this dream. I remember having it in grade school, and through high school. Not sure when I’d last had that dream.
#2 This started when I was very young I would be watching people like I was hovering above them. It was like watching my own funeral. The people were talking about how they would miss me, what a shame it was that I was gone. But I wasn’t dead, and I knew they knew that, but I couldn’t communicate with them. I sooo wanted to say hey, I’m ok, everything is ok. But they couldn’t see me or talk to me or hear me. My sister was crying as were a few others. And I remember hearing someone say what’s Courtney (my lil cousin) going to do without her cousin Bysh (my nickname, another story). Then as I got older a sister in our hall who’s kids I’d basically adopted said ‘what are my kids going to do without Bysh’ then more recently I heard that same sister say that but about My niece Ashley, ‘What is Ashley going to do without and Auntie Bysh). I would be watching this feeling my heart torn out of me, and not be able to console them, or understand what was happening. The closest thing I could think of would be my funeral or I was in a comma or something, I couldn’t imagine any other situation where I would be cut off from all family and friends and be devastated by that. I would wake up sobbing after this dream, in a cold sweat too scared to go back to sleep. (hence my insomnia)
#3 In this dream I was in an elders meeting. But I was not the one being counseled. We had some dirty CO’s come through that tried to stir up trouble and more then once they’d go after dad about something. Well I’m a very protective person and I used to day dream about what I would say if they asked me about certain situations. Well in this dream I’m with these elders and the CO and I’m setting them straight, I’m talking about whatever the current problem was and telling them what had really happened and what they should do about it. I was never the one being counseled and was always standing up to them and explaining things and defending those I felt were in the right, kind of like a witness for them and just going on an on and they elders didn’t know what to do. I’d wake up kinda freaked out by this and wondered what would happen if I was ever in that situation. I was never intimidated by the elders, my Dad had been PO and City Overseer as long as I could remember and it never occurred to me to fear the elders or be intimidated by them, I just viewed them as other people and the fathers of my friends. I guess this did help me to lose my fears and prepare me for my ‘Heresy Trial’
#4 I had a dream where I had liked some guy and we’d wanted to date or whatever but something kept stopping us, and then for some reason we were torn apart and could no longer be together, but it wasn’t really the fault of either one of us, something happened, like he died or something, but I knew he hadn’t, we were just separated and had to go on with our lives. I think this dream scared me from getting attached to anyone growing up. And it happened exactly like that we both just said ok this isn’t working now, and drifted apart, still friends
#5 This dream kreeps me out to talk about and I’m still not sure exactly where this fits in. I remember dreaming about having a cong picnic up at a big house in the woods. Well we’d all be playing and having fun. And then I’d walk around the back of the house and see a small group of people doing something rather secretive and ritual like. So I’d sneek through the bushes and saw them eating something, I got closer and saw they were eating babies, this still gives me horrible chills to even write, this dream I hated the worst and would have me soo upset I’d sometimes get sick and go throw up, it was soo real, I could even smell it. It was horrible I’d wake up from these dreams soo freaked out sometimes I’d go in my parents room or crawl in bed with my sister. I remember as I got older I wanted part of that movie the ‘naked pray’ and when they had that scene that they’re roasting the men I like had a total panic attack, even typing this now my breathings come short in my chest and my stomach is a ball of nerves. I don’t think I want to know what this one is about….. but it was like the others, somehow they had a different feel then my normal dreams. This is the reason I REFUSE to watch any of the Hanibal series because ahh I can't deal with that.
I also used to remember laying bed just about to fall asleep and see like giant sand dunes in front of me moving kind of like those 3D screen savers. And then I would hear a strong wind, and it would start howling painfully in my ears and yet I knew there was no sound, and I would hear it calling my name getting louder and louder, and it would scare me and I’d shake it off and wake up, then I’d be like what is that???? Soo I’d lay down and try to feel it again, but I couldn’t induce it. After a while I’d be like ohh this again and try to go along with it, but as soon as I became totally aware of it, it would stop and I’d find myself wide awake.
HAHAHHA and my mom wondered why I hated going to bed, and had trouble sleeping, and would crawl in on the floor in their room. I for a while thought maybe it was Demons and I’d pray soo hard, for safety and to have faith, even more then I already had. I can remember how stressful this was on me as a kid thinking that I had to control all this, that it was something wrong with me arrgggg those damn JW’s!!!!
#6 I also used to get kidnapped a lot in my dreams, felt a loss of control in. I never got hurt, and it was always by people I knew, and was well taken care of and I’d be like ok well if it’s going to be like this might as well make the best of it. So I’d cook and clean and fix up my lil place I was ‘imprisoned’ in, and made some friends among my captors…..good lil JW I was.
Ahhh well that’s all I can think of at the moment I’m a lil warn out after all that. I’ve only ever told a few people about this before, didn’t want people to think I was a freak or something, but I guess it’s too late to worry about that now ;) hehehhe
I hadn't had some of these for a while, and then when we got the call from the CO and the game was up we knew they knew, that morning I had all these flooding back to me and I was like OMG, it's happening, they're all happening omg................. and I haven't had one of these since......YAY
Ven
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thank god corey is gone (although he was booted, not voted off).. anyone watch today?
kimberley locke was simply amazing...reuben as well.... clay was great but played it safe...too bad joshua didn't...he was the worst singer tonight....it was painful to watch...disco is not his genre of singing.... i also liked carmen.. of the judges, i love simon's honesty.. reuben looks like a shoe-in for american idol finalist...i wish his competition was either kimgerly locke or clay
Persoanlly I think Kim L is very pretty, has a very hawaiian or asian look to her not sure which she is. She's curvy and a lil heavy sure but she carries it off very well I think and has an amazing voice.
Kim C has the best figure by far, but her talent is just not quite up there if you ask me.
I still think Julia was the prettiest of them all she had a real naturaly beauty about her.
Trynce just bugs me, but that girl can sing.
I'm glad Rickys gone never cared for his singing at all, just not my style.
Ruuubeen is amazing his voice is sooo smooth, loved the disco song he sang.
Clay is my fav though he's so adorable, just makes you wanna fluff his hair. hehe Reminds me of a good friend of mine who was just a doll and I see a lot of that in Clay. Everytime he sings it blows me away, where does that voice come from.
I didn't get to see last weeks show though, sooo I don't even know what the genre was or who sang what!!!!!!!
Ven
i woke up with my heart racing this morning.
i had an awful dream that i had gone home to visit my parents and that everybody in my former cong came bye to say hi.
in my dream, all the men had on suits and all the women had on floral dresses.
HEHEH whoops
the above quote was actually mine bwahhahah I forgot to log Safe out before I posted hahhaa she's gonna kill me, but at least I umm a retracted it right
BWHAHAHAHHAHAHA just kidding their place is always sparkling clean hahhaha just couldn't resist.
Ven