This is like asking "Who is the good Samaritan?" Question found in Mathew 24:45 is a part of an illustration Jesus used to alert those living in the Last Days; it does not imply the existence of God's organization any more that it glorifies the validity of slavery.
Posts by venus
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11Who is the "faithful and discreet slave"? & JW class system
by Counter-Watchtower inive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?
and or point me to info on it..
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Just overheard this after meeting . . .
by neat blue dog inthe annual meeting just finished, and here's a conversation i overheard from two gushing jws:.
sister:.
they said we're so close!.
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venus
As someone suggested in this forum sometime back, their understanding about Babylon the Great has to change from the world of religions to United States of America which has influence over all the earth's affairs.
https://escapeallthesethings.com/60-reasons-iraq-not-mystery-babylon/
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Just overheard this after meeting . . .
by neat blue dog inthe annual meeting just finished, and here's a conversation i overheard from two gushing jws:.
sister:.
they said we're so close!.
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venus
In the 90's when the phrase 'end is imminent' was used in WT many were interpreting its implication.
But now if GB talks about end being imminent there may be more buyers as age-old myth (nuclear arms would serve as a deterrent) is crumbling because of suicidal North Korea.
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Deadly Discipline
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhttps://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.
the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.
here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.
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Unfortunately, we will continue to have cases like this till we learn that others cannot teach us what we ARE (it is not for others to say what we ARE) and what God’s will is for us. Only we could discover by observation, what we ARE, and only we could discover by reasoning, what God’s will for us.
Teaching through words, are an attempt to put Life into a shoe box. It just will not fit, hence will result in confusion and tension for which some would try to end their lives.
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Illogicality of preaching
by venus innot all scripture is god-breathed.
there are verses that also dishonor god.
for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].
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Dearyweather,
Interestingly, even The Watchtower admits that this verse (John 3:13) is not to be taken seriously because "When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, a Pharisee and a teacher in Israel, Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven"
- w06 6/15 p. 30
- Questions From Readers
w06 6/15 p. 30(https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006447)
If "Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven" while speaking to Nicodemus, it means he did not utter those verse. Later writers were assuming what were all the things Jesus would have spoken and done and were writing accordingly.
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Who goes to heaven?
by theplains inhello,i found this on the jw site.https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/it says:"jesus said: "no man has ascended into heaven.
(john 3:13) he thus showedthat good people who died before him, such as abraham, moses, job, and david,did not go to heaven.
(acts 2:29, 34).
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venus
Interestingly, even The Watchtower admits that this verse (John 3:13) is not to be taken seriously because "When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, a Pharisee and a teacher in Israel, Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven"
- w06 6/15 p. 30
- Questions From Readers
w06 6/15 p. 30(https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006447)
If "Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven" while speaking to Nicodemus, it means he did not utter those verse. Later writers were assuming what were all the things Jesus would have spoken and done and were writing accordingly.
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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal
by pale.emperor ini thought this during my wake up.
if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.
some would even say a con.
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When the truth is preached, everyone would accept.
However when untruth is preached, it would only create various sects. For example apostle Paul believed his generation would see the New World (1 Cor 10:11) which proved to be untrue.
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"We don't venerate idols or images!"
by stuckinarut2 inhow often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".
members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.
they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .
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Attacking worship through images makes no sense because keeping a photo of one's physical father is a sign of love toward him, and it serves as a reminder to all his father stands for.
Use of symbols are everywhere--even the wine and bread JWs pass in their memorial service is a symbol that is used as part of their worship.
If God is true, whatever helps me to keep myself attached to Him or whatever helps me to remember Him is also true. Some people say they remember God as the great Illuminator (giver of enlightenment) and elevator (giver of empowerment) when they see sun (compare Psalm 84:11).
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Illogicality of preaching
by venus innot all scripture is god-breathed.
there are verses that also dishonor god.
for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].
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Drearyweather
You said: "I don't know how you came to this conclusion."
You take yourself back to Jesus' time and be among his immediate listeners, listen to him as saying: "No one has ascended into heaven except me"
You would say "no, Jesus, you are here right now, you would ascend into heaven only after three and half years later."
Did you get the problem with the verse John 3:13?
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Is there anything good JWs taught you still benefit from?
by venus insome years ago, i attended a jw wedding.
marriage speaker said something which changed my life for the better, and it helps me even now.
he told the couple: “the very make up of man and woman is such that conflicts can often arise between you.
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Diogenesister, millie210
Because what he said was an eye-opener for me, I went straight and sat with him during the dinner and congratulated him, and asked him: “You mean to say anger is the part of our very design by God—remember all religions teach it is one of the vices?” Interestingly, he wanted to be politically correct with his answers. He said: Let religions teach what they like—we are concerned with our practical life. I have found anger to be a mechanism within to keep us uneasy till we find out a solution. There are people who did this in large scale and brought freedom to countries with millions of population without channelizing their anger towards the aggressors.
Then he gave some more details on the second point which he said is connected with the first point. You have heard no man is in an island. Similarly, no action is an isolated action. Nothing happens without something preceding—there is always a basis for something to happen. Everything that happens is part of a flow. In addition, every action is influenced by many factors and forces which are often beyond the control of the doer. It explains why people behave differently in same situation because they are operating from their immediate background—such as coming in good mood or in bad from home. That is why in a traffic jam, you see some are yelling at each other, some are agitated, some are impatient, yet some are relaxed making use of the time doing something creative such as planning, reading, praying, doing breathing exercise … etc. In office world, management behaves very nicely with employees when company makes good profit, and vice versa, which means every action is the offspring of the time and circumstances. Person coming from such office atmosphere on to house may not be fully himself/herself.