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Why do the WT DF for smoking ?

by Phizzy in

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Phizzy, the reason you state regarding smoking being related to spiritism is one basis, and is still current. However, the primary reason used in disfellowshipping actions is this one:

[insert boring, inane Proclaimer's quote. Sidebar: The first quote is enough to end the discussion - "the bible does not mention tobacco" ]

You realize of course that the Proclaimer's explanation is just a smoke (heh heh) screen to cover up the original doctrine - that silly notion of smoking invites demons into your lungs. Ask a dub today why smoking is a DFing offense and odds are no one knows shit about the 70s WTS teaching that smoking was a link to spiritism.

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Well an old friend found me. Now I'm in her cross hairs to get active again.

by wha happened? in

ugh.

on one hand i'm glad she's ok. rather sickly.

but once she got word i've been inactive, she's all hot and bothered to get me back to meetings.. "did you attend the memorial this year?".

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"Did you attend the Memorial this year?"

"No". I told you it's been like 10 years now"

"Oh cmon, Adam?"

"I told you. Why can't you accept the answer, 'I'm not interested'"

You should go. There's a whole section of the talk about you and why Jesus had to die because of you. I'm sure you'd find it highly entertaining...

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My View and Bobby Dylan's View of AntiWatchtower Special Groups

by Band on the Run in

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my computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.

i must vent, however.

perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.

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JWN, it seems, is full of legends in their own lunch breaks.

I'm on a cigarette break, thank you very much

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Watchotwer video: How to stop a bully without using your fist...lol.

by Joliette in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2gemsmw2y.

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pot calling the kettle black?.

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I was given this same directive as a hemophiliac child. To give you an example, I can bleed internally if I tie my shoelaces too tight, so physical attacks are much worse for me than the average person. When bullies assaulted me I was told I must turn the other cheek so they may hit me on the other side like Jesus, not run away or defend myself.

When I defended myself once, the bullies stopped but I got a severe beating for disobedience to the bible.

Okay, not defending the bullies or bullying, but at least the bullies probably didn't know how serious it was to your health to be physically bullied... but your parents did. And the fact that they beat you for defending yourself from attack, or even demand that you allow others to physically attack you, knowing full well your situation, makes them criminally negligent.

Bullies need a good ass kicking, parents like that need to be locked up and have parenting rights take away.

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Jehovah's Witnesses News, Library......on FACEBOOK!

by minimus in

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i didn't know the watchtower had that on facebook .

did you?

?.

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Yea, and your JW family and friends will add you to the group without your knowledge and you'll be outed as a closet JW to the apostate community. Because everything on Facebook is real and true...

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so now what?

by Kaltas1 in

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i don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.

but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.

after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.

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Welcome!

Have you joined our fan page yet?

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Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

by OUTLAW in

good afternoon jwn... .

i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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AWAA Fan Page

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warped logic from the memorial talk

by why144000 in

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speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

warped logic at its finest!.

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He said the exact same at our Hall. It must have been in he script.

either we were all at the same Memorial, or it was in the script, because I heard it too.

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Anyone taking bets on the number of partakers this year?

by wha happened? in

even with the change to "just domestics", i can't see the number going down.

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don't know 'bout everywhere, but they did not mention the number of last year's partakers at the Memorial I attended. If this is consistent with all the other meetings throughout dubdom, I wouldn't be surprised if they drop off ever announcing number of partakers within a year or two.

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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marking to come back to the link when I have time to read...