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do any of you have the matrix wish i could just forget all this attitude sometimes?
me and the wife were fightitng again and she asked why i can't just go back and pretend or just forget all this... she said as an athnostic you either don't belive in god or don't believe that god cares so why can't you just go and fake it... i was dumbfounded i ask her why can't you just get the f*ck out and stop faking it... she stormed out and i sat down here..... so i ask ya, if you could forget all the negatives about the wbts (i know thats a lot) and just go back like nothing had ever happened would you?
I often recommend that folks try visiting a church merely to exorcise that particular demon/fear that the WTS implanted. It's very liberating!
I love going into old churchs to see the architecture, especially in Europe and the UK. I did it as a JW, though it was frowned on by some and I felt a little guilty about it. I justified it by thinking that they wouldn't be around to visit after J destroyed them. Now, I know better and it's even more fun to visit them.
reading a topic in here, i came across a conversation regarding jehovah approved(tm) sports.
i noticed that two of the posters were insensed at the amount of ex-jws in this forum.. they started ignoring everyone else that had put their opinion in on the subject....and decided that everyone in this forum was a jw "hater".
i myself take offence to that, for i don't hate the jw's.
Some of my best friends are JWs. I may not see them as often as I used to, I still consider them friends and on occasion get together with them. Some of the "friends" at the hall have chosen to not associate with me anymore so I guess they aren't my friends anymore but I still don't hate them. They have been fooled as we once were. Why hate slaves for being enslaved? I hate that they remain in the power of the WTS and wish they could get free.
I don't "hate" the WTS any more than any other organized religion either. I hate that I was fooled by the WTS for so long. I hate losing the years that I lost to them. But at the same time, I can't change the past, but I can control my own future. So I don't worry too much about hating religion or the WTS though it is hard some times.
famous jws or influenced by jws:.
michael jackson(used to be).
prince(for now).
Thanks for the lists pr.....
The Mormon bunch doesn't stack up to the JWs as far as newsworthiness or flashiness. Seems a bit odd, that the JWs are so "worldly".
famous jws or influenced by jws:.
michael jackson(used to be).
prince(for now).
ricky schroder converted to mormonism...
Now there's a freak if there ever was one....lol
famous jws or influenced by jws:.
michael jackson(used to be).
prince(for now).
Wayans family(grew up in it)GET OUT! I didnt know that.. lmao
That's what I'm told anyway....
(you're not gonna hit me like Elaine does in Seinfeld when she says GET OUTA HERE! are ya?)
famous jws or influenced by jws:.
michael jackson(used to be).
prince(for now).
Famous JWs or influenced by JWs:
Michael Jackson(used to be)
Prince(for now)
Serena Williams(claims)
Venus Williams(claims)
Wayans family(grew up in it)
Mickey Spillane(converted)
Quite a few colorful characters there.
Famous Mormons:
Donny Osmond
Marie Osmond
um....any others? Any worth mentioning anyway?
From my limited perspective, it seems the JWs have more trouble keeping their famous members on the straight and narrow compared to the Mormons.
since i burdened you all with my marriage problems earlier, i thought it'd be only fair that i should give you all an update of how things are going.
i feel that my husband and i love eachother very much, but he's so conflicted and divided because his loyalty towards the wtbts is so strong.. we reconciled, cried a lot and had a heart-to-heart talk, long and elaborate.
let all our thoughts and frustrations out in the open.
He suggested why don't I just talk to the elders and my folks about not going to the meetings anymore, or being a JW anymore. This way they'll stop pestering him whenever I don't show up to meetings or social gatherings along with him.
I smell trouble here. If you go to the elders and say you don't want to go to meetings anymore....bam....you're DFd or at the least DAd. Same difference. If you want to keep family contact, the fading thing is the better route. Longer, more painful and may not even work, but if you go right up to the elders and basically tell them you don't believe anymore, they are going to take action.
Good luck.
i have the feb magazine with the new report in it.
if anyone is interested to know any of the figures then let me know and i will post it over the next half hour or so....
I never paid much attention to the service reports in the mags.....does it list the number of partakers at the last memorial?
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sorry for my ignorance but,.
what is the wts's stance on the dying out "anointed class"?
don't they comprise the "faithful, discreet slave"?
that at some point during the "anointed" persons life if they became unfaithful, they could be removed from that 144,000 number and when that happens a SLOT OPENS UP!!! whipppeee... anyways, at that point Jehovah sends a message to the "filler" and they could become anointed right then.
The success rate of the anointed must not be too good. The number of the remnant left on earth has hovered around the same mark for quite some time now. The rate of people alive in the 20s and 30s is declining at a much faster rate than those of the remnant, who are of that same age group. That would mean that for the remnant number to remain fairly constant, a steady rate of the 144,000 are proving unfaithful year after year.
