Posts by sosoconfused

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Since Great Crowd has no mediator

by sosoconfused in

i am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.

now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.

yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .

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Yeah... why would anyone want to have a personal relationship with the guy who died for ya? After all its not like Jesus did anything for anyone.

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Since Great Crowd has no mediator

by sosoconfused in

i am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.

now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.

yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .

Well Rat please remember that some peoples journey with religion is not merely about being saved...It's about having a personal relationship with Jesus and knowing that through his sacrifice he also plays a major role in our day to day communique with God. Yes Jesus means something to them besides JUST A SACRIFICE that we benefit from.

That might not mean anythign to you - but it does to many. It might sound lame to you and that is YOUR opinion. But please do not think that your request for me to stop making any kind of post will be adhered to. Sorry but you don't have that kind of authority.

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Faders????

by Crazyguy in

ok so i have been actively fading but my question to all you faders with family.

if one just fades doesn't it just look like to your kids that you have just become spiritually weak?

i mean aren't they my kids just going to ask their mother why i'm not going in time, and that will give her a chance to explain things the way she wants?

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My children are 9 and the other is 5. My 9 year old doesn't give a crap. On tuesday she said, "Sometimes its nice to just stay home. We can talk about Jehovah here and its more fun". The 5 year old has no clue one way or the other.

Just take your children to meet other kids in the park or community you live in like any other sane person would. Let them know that worshipping Jehovah from home with your family is fine because Jehovah is happy with it. Once I stopped going to the meetings my wife was concerned for about 1 month, but during that time I was extra sweet to her... not as a means to be coniving but I had more time to do stuff for her and she appreciated the new me.

I also showed her some evidence of watchtower falsehoods and lies. The child abuse stuff infuriated her to the point that she could not take it.

On top of that when people call to the house they only asked for me and not her, which made her realize they only cared about me because I was a former elder. She saw the hypocrisy. Truthfully if you have young children they will be easy to bring along - it was the wife in my instance that was scary.

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What problem did being a JW leave with your personality?

by frogonmytoe in

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and i don't (necessarily) mean a religious or spiritual one.. for example, i think the traces of guilt and paranoia i often fight with come from being a born-in, but my biggest issue by far is not being able to live in the moment.. i have listened to the power of now audiobook (and eckhart tolle's voice put me to sleep) so i read it instead.

i have read other self-help books, most of them buddhist in leaning, but i still find it hard to stop thinking only in the future (thanks to the great trib, armageddon), or in the past (jesus, flood, 1914 being responsible for that).

and whilst i no longer believe the big a is looming, and barely give anything else a second thought, my behaviour has projected itself, and i still find it difficult just to 'be' in the moment, enjoying and savouring what i'm doing, and doing it to the best of my ability, i'm forever thinking what is coming up, and what i did badly last time.. my sister said the last time i visited her that she felt like she was waiting for something to happen "but not like armageddon, something else".

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I have 0 ability to make friends... I can go to a party and be the center of attention - yet I have no clue how to make a friend.

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My brother says: Don't worry about 2052, we will be in paradise by then...

by Joliette in

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i was talking to my brother about a video that i saw about african genocide, and in the video this doctor that i listened to was saying based on his research he predicts that africans in different regions of africa will be scaled back by about 50% by the year 2052 (due to aids, food storages, etc).

my brother gave me a drive home from work and we were talking about this.

he said that we wont have to worry about that cause 2052 is never going to happen.

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What happened in 1952 and 1994??????????????????????

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Joy based upon faith is just not enough

by sosoconfused in

at the hieght of my jehovah's witnessness like most people it seemed that everything that i found joy in was always bookmarked with the "new system" that i was eagerly awaiting.

if i went on vacation and i was truly enjoying a moment in the sun and total peace the first thought out of someones mouth was always, "just imagine(i am sure everyone knows what is coming next) in the future when everyday will be like this in the new system!".

then there were those anniversary parties when you are so proud someone made 20 or 25 years and the next word out someones mouth inevitably was, "this is a great milestone... but just imagine in the new system when we will say how proud we are we made it to 1 million!!!!..

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IYes Blues...

3 Years ago my grandmother died and she held on to her hopedown to the last.

The funny thing is she wasnt pushing it in our face, she said she was at peace and just wanted god to take her. Just sad to see people go not quite sure if they were happy with their choices

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Joy based upon faith is just not enough

by sosoconfused in

at the hieght of my jehovah's witnessness like most people it seemed that everything that i found joy in was always bookmarked with the "new system" that i was eagerly awaiting.

if i went on vacation and i was truly enjoying a moment in the sun and total peace the first thought out of someones mouth was always, "just imagine(i am sure everyone knows what is coming next) in the future when everyday will be like this in the new system!".

then there were those anniversary parties when you are so proud someone made 20 or 25 years and the next word out someones mouth inevitably was, "this is a great milestone... but just imagine in the new system when we will say how proud we are we made it to 1 million!!!!..

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Must live life now...

I have a 70+ year old father and a 65+ year old mother. I look at their lives and they have been a total an utter waste. I never really remember them being genuinely happy about anything ever. Everything was always negative and what we were not doing and how we could do more for Jehovah... they never accepted promotions at work... they never ever took us on vacation... the struggled financially with all of their children all with the hope that we would enjoy life in the new order together stroking pandas.

here they are retired... living off SS and still never having gone on a real vacation, or bought anything they liked or ever had a hobby. My mother still pioneers and my dad is still an overworked elder loosing his mind from the stress thinking he is pleasing god. Still so busy with this theocratic activity that they missed both of their grandchildrens graduation because they had a bible study... and the woman didn't even show.

What a waste

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Joy based upon faith is just not enough

by sosoconfused in

at the hieght of my jehovah's witnessness like most people it seemed that everything that i found joy in was always bookmarked with the "new system" that i was eagerly awaiting.

if i went on vacation and i was truly enjoying a moment in the sun and total peace the first thought out of someones mouth was always, "just imagine(i am sure everyone knows what is coming next) in the future when everyday will be like this in the new system!".

then there were those anniversary parties when you are so proud someone made 20 or 25 years and the next word out someones mouth inevitably was, "this is a great milestone... but just imagine in the new system when we will say how proud we are we made it to 1 million!!!!..

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@StAnn - those are the exact feelings I have. At first I was really troubled. I was so concerned about what others would think and how they would feel. In actuality, those are the last thoughts one should have on thier mind. Why go to the grave happy that you denied yourself everything just to make sure others looked at you favorably. When you have the option of dying knowing you enjoyed your life

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Joy based upon faith is just not enough

by sosoconfused in

at the hieght of my jehovah's witnessness like most people it seemed that everything that i found joy in was always bookmarked with the "new system" that i was eagerly awaiting.

if i went on vacation and i was truly enjoying a moment in the sun and total peace the first thought out of someones mouth was always, "just imagine(i am sure everyone knows what is coming next) in the future when everyday will be like this in the new system!".

then there were those anniversary parties when you are so proud someone made 20 or 25 years and the next word out someones mouth inevitably was, "this is a great milestone... but just imagine in the new system when we will say how proud we are we made it to 1 million!!!!..

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I am sure it was just one long mad lump of whinning LOL, it's just that looking back over the wasted time and memories it starts too burn a little

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Brothers who were held back from being elder for stupid reasons?

by toto555 in

do you know of any cases where brothers didn't get to be elder for a stupid/bogus reason even though they otherwise qualified?

do you think some/most appointments are politicially motivated?

how much do you think politics plays in the appointment process versus merit?

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About a year ago just before I started the fade a brother in our hall was told he could not be an elder by our CO because the elder body did not know what he was studying with his family on Fmaily Worship night. This is no lie.

He said as the elder body we need to know whether or not he has his family are studying the deeper things and what he is instilling in his child.

Another brother was not appointed because he had not placed a book in over a year. The CO said - You can pretty much just give a book away. Especially with all the campaings etc... what has this brother been doing in the field