Like I said, we all have our own varying opinions on what we think is perfection. I won't go into the sometimes smutty, sometimes boring details of the kind of guy I'm after or the kind of girl I'd like to be, but I would love a stable life, a childhood, Elle's legs, no more tears, good health, peace, end to human cruelty, not such an addictive personality, the list goes on. Like I said, boring, but that would be perfection to me.
VioletAnai
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The end of Cellulite???
by VioletAnai ingirls, .
by far one of the best teachings of jw's is the one of growing to perfection.
no more cellulite!!!
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The end of Cellulite???
by VioletAnai ingirls, .
by far one of the best teachings of jw's is the one of growing to perfection.
no more cellulite!!!
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VioletAnai
No offense taken GDW. Though being compared to a dog at a show? Not sure if I'd win pedigree, I'm a bitsa after all!!!
I'm very body conscious, what 20-something who's completely self-involved isn't? The media drums in us that we must be perfect, so I guess I'm just a wishful thinker!
Don't we all have our own ideas of perfection anyways? No doubt about it, we can be a dumarse lot sometimes. Brains, bod, bucks, that's all I'm asking for.
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The end of Cellulite???
by VioletAnai ingirls, .
by far one of the best teachings of jw's is the one of growing to perfection.
no more cellulite!!!
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VioletAnai
Girls,
By far one of the best teachings of jw's is the one of growing to perfection. No more cellulite!!! No more unsightly unsightly's. Woohoo.
Just a quick question on the side - for jw's - do any of you feel that when you associate with others or attend kh, you're gunna be a stumbling block for these people. Nah? Just me? Ho hum. I always feel like I'm gunna shake someone's faith to the ground just by opening my mouth. Celtic, you'll be happy to hear that one.
Ok, good day to all. Keep safe
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Ignorance of Silent Lambies
by proplog2 inwhat a bunch of wall paper.
99% of the people on this forum are hopelessly believers in one sided non-sense.
i am tired of the abusive language that has been dumped on me by otherwise respectable participants.
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VioletAnai
That does sound mighty unfair on you. No one I'm sure is accusing you of advocating it simply because you choose to investigate both sides. I am a silent lamb myself and I am not offended if you don't believe my story. Or any of the others on the website. But ignorance is not an excuse. As I'm sure you're well aware. I just hope you're not an advocate of 'False Memory Syndrome'. Someone affected by molestation, cannot over the years, hide how it affects them. So it is a slow process of eliminating these troublemakers and not just throwing us all in the same boat as liars. Not that I'm saying you've done this, but this is addressed to anyone who is unsympathetic to a child's suffering. I should know, I have a dozen in my family and half of them are jw's!!!!!!!!!!!
I will check out the links you've provided, as I like to be well educated. Perhaps I'll let you know what I think.
Please don't feel that anyone is against you. And if they are, well don't worry about their opinions, as they don't worry about yours. That's what I've learnt. Slower learner but I managed.
Violet
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When There's Too Much Talk About Satan???
by Celtic inperhaps it is that when so many of us have been subjected to horrific mind manipulation methods, we become dumbed down to the seriousness of the issues at hand.. ----------------------------.
when a 'church' teaches, no, in fact instills so much about satan and all his crafty ways and methods, including quite terrifying teachings of matters pertaining to demons, what happens to the innocent victims of that kind of abuse?
how do, these innocent victims grow up, what effect does this have on their personal development and natural balance?.
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VioletAnai
Sorry Celtic I didn't mean to offend. Just trying to explain my opinions. I thought however that this was a place for openminded people. I've found a few hypocrites here though. I just don't understand your logic. I'm trying to though.
So sorry again, shall not bother you anymore if you can't accept a differing opinion. I will however, keep track of your ideas, so that I don't make future offending mistakes. toss toss toss!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about walking on eggshells, maybe you should become a jw. They're very intolerant of varying opinions.
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When There's Too Much Talk About Satan???
by Celtic inperhaps it is that when so many of us have been subjected to horrific mind manipulation methods, we become dumbed down to the seriousness of the issues at hand.. ----------------------------.
when a 'church' teaches, no, in fact instills so much about satan and all his crafty ways and methods, including quite terrifying teachings of matters pertaining to demons, what happens to the innocent victims of that kind of abuse?
how do, these innocent victims grow up, what effect does this have on their personal development and natural balance?.
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VioletAnai
Carmel,
I disagree. Jesus often warned the apostles of satan. He even said to him when he offered him the kingdoms of the earth to "Go away satan". And Peter mentions the devil roaring round like a lion seeking to devour someone. Hmmmm...didn't believe huh?
How can you believe in the existance of God (do you?) and not the existance of the opposite, an opposer or Satan, of God? We can all oppose God at times, so that in effect makes us satans as well. However, I do agree that there was one angel who rebeled first and then got the name for it. I have evil in me too. But that's our free will, I consciously have to control my urge to go out and attack my attacker, or seek revenge, or have a fit of anger, or blaspheme against god. It's how we use that free will. Adam and Eve had no idea of good and evil because God didn't want them to suffer the knowledge of something so bad, they were protected and niave at first. However, to deny them the knowledge of satan before he tempted eve, kinda unfair. She didn't even have a chance. Then they argue that she was perfect and should've known better ra ra ra.
Ok, done rambling. That's my opinion anyways. Take care carmel.
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When There's Too Much Talk About Satan???
by Celtic inperhaps it is that when so many of us have been subjected to horrific mind manipulation methods, we become dumbed down to the seriousness of the issues at hand.. ----------------------------.
when a 'church' teaches, no, in fact instills so much about satan and all his crafty ways and methods, including quite terrifying teachings of matters pertaining to demons, what happens to the innocent victims of that kind of abuse?
how do, these innocent victims grow up, what effect does this have on their personal development and natural balance?.
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VioletAnai
It's kinda hard to explain. I've read the NWT, I know I know, it's the JW's interpretation, but I've also had a look at the literal translation with the interlinear. What can I say? I totally agree that there was something better for the earth and humans than what we have today. I have never been able to swallow other doctrines, such as trinity, purgatory, paying for forgiveness of sins. Tripe to me. It's far more logical to my mind that we should live forever. I mean we have a longing for it and a longing for God. And ALL humans on earth worship some deity or the other. So who put it into us to worship something we can't see, to want to live forever. Sounds good to me, no more tears, beautiful paradise, I can have kids, my bad memories not called to mind. I can finally learn the violin (would have plenty of time) and could brush up on my artistic skills (I need that)!!
It's just that the jw's have violated me too. With molestation, well it's all coming out now isn't it. But it's the people. Some get on their high horse and think you're personally attacking them. One elder refuses to speak nicely to me after I opened my fat mouth and asked what scripture had the two witness policy. Know it now, but he didn't tell me then. I fully weigh up everything and mediate on any information I'm given by them and I process it, and decide for myself if I believe. I never used to. Left when I was 15, to pursue worldly things, and now I'm 24, matured, change of goals and personal opinions, preferences etc, I am willing to accept that Jehovah is a loving just god. It's the humans who do not apply his counsel in their lives that make God look bad. So that's what I mean by people failing me. Not their predictions, their actions. Look at the Jews, God didn't ever want human sacrifices, it never came into his heart, however, what did some of them do? Sacrifice their children to Baal. Now that's satan in action!
U have yourself a brilliant day to Celtic.
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When There's Too Much Talk About Satan???
by Celtic inperhaps it is that when so many of us have been subjected to horrific mind manipulation methods, we become dumbed down to the seriousness of the issues at hand.. ----------------------------.
when a 'church' teaches, no, in fact instills so much about satan and all his crafty ways and methods, including quite terrifying teachings of matters pertaining to demons, what happens to the innocent victims of that kind of abuse?
how do, these innocent victims grow up, what effect does this have on their personal development and natural balance?.
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VioletAnai
Yeah, but what about other religious denominations? Catholics absolutely terrify you with hellfire and purgatory!!! Others, demons eat children and the such. Still others are happy to sacrifice these little anklebiters.
Nah, I've always felt safe knowing that I could protect myself from spiritual influence. I had a seance and I truly believe they are out there and evil. Told me when my gran would die and she did. Told me other stuff that's come true. Other deaths. We had the kids waking up screaming in the middle of the night saying they'd seen red eyes and the such. They had no idea we'd done a seance. Yeah I think it's safer to be educated about them, that way you can protect yourself from heartache. Most people make the mistake in underestimating them or believing they don't exist! I've always believed, I used to be an occultist, I know their tricks. I don't fear them however, they can be destroyed just like us.
And if you're wondering, yes, I'm associated with JW's. Studying again. Will always believe it's the truth. Just don't trust the people. I will never, however, doubt Jehovah, who righteously warned us of all he intends to do. Satan ever warn you of his attacks????
Yes yes, fanatic here. Not really though. Just very passionate about my feelings and beliefs. Passionate about other's lives too. I want everyone to be happy. However, some don't want that for themselves.
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Silent Lambs
by VioletAnai inhere i was thinking i was the only one with a dirty past.
the elders didn't understand why i had a drinking problem.
thought it must of been fornication and well, the sister i was studying with thought i had to have been my brother-in-law cause i was drinking with him.
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VioletAnai
I started attending again cause I felt there was something missing in my life. I've never doubted Jehovah or the bible, just the people who represent him. I used to blame him for allowing humans to suffer so greatly. I'm clinging to the hope of having every tear wiped from my eyes!!!!! I've also hit a major wall, with my depression surfacing again. Just found out that my family didn't tell me who he was till they were sure he was dead. Now I'm robbed of justice. I can't remember his face, but my grandmother has put it all together and she steals it from me. Ah!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, I was raised in 'the truth'. I've doubted as a teen, but I had a lot of problems, what with dealing with new memories. And the elders were hypocrites. I couldn't get baptized cause I was drinking yet, the elders kids were all sleeping with each other. What's with that. I get disassociated and they get a slap on the wrist. I'm ostrized and they're praised for their loyal service. But now, all the growing up I've done, I've realized, we're human, we'll make mistakes, we'll assume things, we'll be haughty!!!! But this is not Jehovah's way. I'm clinging to him cause I got no one else. I'm still 'spiritually weak' as I have a marijuana habit, but I'm getting there. However, other congregation members don't think so. Anyone would think I had ebola!
Does that answer your questions, you curious cat you! Feel free to oppose/agree/or ramble as much as you like.
Violet
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Silent Lambs
by VioletAnai inhere i was thinking i was the only one with a dirty past.
the elders didn't understand why i had a drinking problem.
thought it must of been fornication and well, the sister i was studying with thought i had to have been my brother-in-law cause i was drinking with him.
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VioletAnai
Here I was thinking I was the only one with a dirty past. The elders didn't understand why I had a drinking problem. Thought it must of been fornication and well, the sister I was studying with thought I had to have been my brother-in-law cause I was drinking with him. I walked out on the truth. Just started going again. Could you imagine the elders reaction if I told them a jw had molested me at 6. By the other stories I'm glad I never told my shame.
Good to see so many of you have a close knit association here.
Anyone who has suffered the injustice of a cruel, perverted childhood, is my true brother and sister. Oh, and any who've been abused, physically, sexually, emotionally, corporately, doctrinely....I'm on your side too.
Take care and love to all.
Violet.