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  Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

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  Sorry I have to eat crow. My picture from the OP says generation THAT SAW 1914. So that in itself does not encompass an overlapping generation. But I wasn't talking out my ass, I just remembered a different quote.

  The January 1, 1989 Watchtower clearly pointed to the year 2000 as the farthest limit of the preaching work and our system of things. It stated, "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."
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  Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

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  The Awake said "In this century". That doesn't mean an overlapping Generation.
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  Starting from a false Premise.

  by Phizzy in

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  we often see "starting from a false premise" enacted on here.

  believers will start from the basis that there is a god.. bible believers will start from the basis that it is the word of god in some measure, and worse are jw apologists, they pre-suppose that the first two are a given, and that their beloved property company posing as a religion is god's organization.. none of those premises have been proven, some have been disproven, but we are supposed to go along with them.. now, you may be happy to debate on that basis, in fact it is probably good "exercise", but in the end i find their arrogant, unproven assertions begin to really annoy me, and then i stick in what is known on here as a "cofty", which is a short, succinct comment that points out the big hole in their presentation.. the only thing you find then is, either the apologist cuts and runs, or totally ignores your "cofty".. i think, even if we enjoy debating for a while with such people, at a certain point we need to call them out on their false premise, or premises, otherwise a j.w lurking here may simply accept the words of the apologist and gain nothing in the way of truth..

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  I agree Phizzy. Wholeheartedly.
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  Starting from a false Premise.

  by Phizzy in

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  we often see "starting from a false premise" enacted on here.

  believers will start from the basis that there is a god.. bible believers will start from the basis that it is the word of god in some measure, and worse are jw apologists, they pre-suppose that the first two are a given, and that their beloved property company posing as a religion is god's organization.. none of those premises have been proven, some have been disproven, but we are supposed to go along with them.. now, you may be happy to debate on that basis, in fact it is probably good "exercise", but in the end i find their arrogant, unproven assertions begin to really annoy me, and then i stick in what is known on here as a "cofty", which is a short, succinct comment that points out the big hole in their presentation.. the only thing you find then is, either the apologist cuts and runs, or totally ignores your "cofty".. i think, even if we enjoy debating for a while with such people, at a certain point we need to call them out on their false premise, or premises, otherwise a j.w lurking here may simply accept the words of the apologist and gain nothing in the way of truth..

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  Kate you really should read some of Bart's books. Misquoting Jesus and Jesus Interupted are great.
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  Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

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  Bennyk that's awesome. lol

  "Jehovah's Witnesses, in thier eagerness for Jesus second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ' in the name of Jehovah '. Never did they say, ' These are the words of Jehovah'." (AWAKE! 22. March 1993)

  Oh, really?

  Jehovah's prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: "This generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur." (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment of his Son's words in a relatively short time." (Watchtower 15. March 1984, p. 6 [brackets theirs!])
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  Bizarre comment about jw.org at SAD

  by sir82 in

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  recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.

  "and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.

  in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.

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  He was talking out his butt. Internet browsers just work that way now. They autofill after you type or search for the most likely result.
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  Some help on the Israel journey of 40 years.

  by jam in

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  at what time did god blind the israelites, (to wonder for.

  40 years)?

  after crossing the red sea exodus states 15;22.

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  If 2 million people stayed for almost a year per stop at 42 different sites then there should be huge camps, trash piles, and burial places all over in that small piece of land. The fact that we instead find a significant lack of evidence for the Exodus is pretty damaging in my opinion.

  The only explanation of the lack of evidence is that god covered it up to test us. Which doesn't make any sense. Just my .02

  (missed your post cantleave)
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  Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

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  Really in that paragraph they give a definition of what a false profit would be and then state that they have never done that. But then down below they do it. So it's almost like they are proving that they are a false prophet.
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  ALL JW's to be at the meeting this week...

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  we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.

  got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .

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  post of the day ADCMS. lolol
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  Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

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  Is that a bonafide false prophecy?

  Would even a JW have to admit it?