Posts by Comatose

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Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

by KateWild in

only assertions that can be proven scientifically, empirically or logically should be accepted as true.. kate xx.

Comatose

Have a great weekend Sam! Wish I could be there to have drinks with you and my wife. See you around here. :)

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Help please!!!

by braincleaned in

my mom just hung up on me, convinced that the borg has never said that jesus was not the mediator between the sheep and him!.

i know they have presumptuously took the place of jesus as mediators can someone pleeeeeeze give me the wt references of this?.

she does not believe me..

Evidence of Ocean of Water in or under Earth's Mantle.... Will people now state this to be proof of the Noah Account?

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

"the transition zone can hold a lot of water, and could potentially have the same amount of h2o [water] as all the world's ocean.".

http://news.yahoo.com/found-hidden-ocean-locked-deep-earths-mantle-181204475.html.

i figured when people read this that there will be those claiming proof of the flood story.

I have actually read that article and it's titled inaccurately to attract attention. It is not an ocean of water, but rather a large depsit of minerals that could much water. Or something like that... It's definately not just a story about a giant ocean underground.

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Birthday celebration/participation

by Zana in

my wife is considering to let our kids participate, maybe even celebrate their own birthdays.

she says what can be so bad about just giving a little kid (who doesn't yet understand the bible) a day full of joy and happiness?

she herself actually delayed her own baptism as a teenager in order to celebrate one more birthday.

Comatose

Only religious holidays are DFing offences.

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I am on the edge of a freak out ..... I think???

by DATA-DOG in

jw
friends

so the rc really sucked, but i made it through.

the propaganda was mind blowing.

i don't know if the crap will be available on the official website or not, but hopefully it gets leaked somehow.

Comatose

Sorry buddy. I wish I could help. But, I think you nailed it when you said you had to just go a day at a time and focus on work.

Also... I personally needed some prescription anxiety/depression medicine to exit as you are. Don't be afraid to go to your normal doc and just tell him everything. I did. I just talked about the cult, and I'm trying to get my family out without them shunning me. I told him everything. He was great. He listened and prescribed some meds. One a normal daily anxiety medication and the other an emergency pill when you are like this right now.

It's the only way I could have made it through.

It's Lexapro as the daily and Ativan as the emergency one.

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What happens after you get the registered letter?

by paul from cleveland in

my friend's daughter, who was baptized at 14, has decided to leave the witnesses.

she's in her early 20's.

she's stopped going to meeting a while ago and moved in with her father who is disfellowshipped.

Comatose

I fought after a registered letter for about 5 months using a lawyer. I got several more family visits in, but was DF'd in the end. i think my mistake was threatening to sue the WT. I should have just threatened local elders. The local elders got a bethel lawyer involved. Surprising, but probably because I threatened to sue WT as well. Each case is different, and each case may result in a completely different action...

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COBE cannot be 80 or more

by fader77 in

a new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.

Comatose

A play by comatose:

coma - so isn't it odd that now nice old brothers over 80 can't be the COBE?

JW - well, they are old, and they do start to lose it a little, and look at brother niceguy in my hall, he is getting kind of crazy

coma - isn't most of the GB about 80 years old?

JW - *head explodes*

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Escaping Indoctrination - Faith Isn't a Virtue.

by cofty in

the unknown writer of the gospel of john put the following words in jesus' mouth, "blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.".

persuading countless generations that it is a virtue to believe incredible things on insufficient evidence, is one of religion's cleverest tricks.. the more incredible the claim; the more flimsy the evidence; the stronger the belief; the greater the virtue.. this is the exact opposite of how we operate in every other aspect of our lives.. rational people must demand objective evidence for everything they are asked to believe.

"extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence".. leaving the dogmatic claims of the watchtower is only a first step.

Comatose

I think the basic simple point of the OP has been lost because some were afraid it could be applied to their belief system.

I think every person who has posted here would agree that our previous faith in the WT organization was wrong and led us to be indoctrinated into a damaging way of life. During that time in our life we told ourselves that faith was a virtue and that we HAD to maintain our faith.

Just because we now we feel our faith is founded solidly doesn't mean that it is NOW a virtue.

Its a simple and relevant point.

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Where does the Bible mention 7000 year long Creative Days?

by tim hooper in

to my total astonishment, there is no mention whatsoever in the scriptures re jehovah's creative days being each of 7000 years duration.. nothing!.

zilch!.

...and yet the wt had this to say:.

Comatose

days to god are 7000 years, this I know

because the gubberning body told me so

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What three items were in the Ark of the Covenant?

by jam in

i will give you a hint.

1) jar of bread 2) stick 3) two stones.. and why were they placed in the ark of the covennant????.

i'm embarrassed to say, as a former elder, schooled by the.

Comatose

I like magic dice the priest kept in his pocket. Ask a question and he would draw one out. Kind of like a magic 8 ball. Those Urim and Thummim should have been in there.