I agree with all you've said. I've only been out 6 months but it's not the religion I grew up in. I hadn't even realised how much things had changed until recently because I was so brainwashed and just going through the motions. Yes, there are a lot of people, good people, that I miss but I don't miss the religion at all.
brainmelt
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The Jehovah's Witness religion has gone for good !!!
by snare&racket ini am not sure how you all feel as we all left at different times for different reasons.... but this new bible seems to have put some final nails into a coffin that was once my jw life.
the religion is so far and so different to the religion i grew up in that it has become something i feel no affiliation with anymore, no bond, no shared ideas or even sentimental views.
different teachings on when the end is coming.
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I'am in the Penalty Box! I asked the Circuit Overseer "Who Donates Blood For Jehovah's Witnesses Blood Fragments".
by AuntConnie intold my husband to put a muzzle on my mouth over the blood dogma.
we all were driving around in field service when the topic of "which fragments would you take if you were in a car accident or cut yourself badly".
said his choice is a personal one, another sister with chronic health problems said she had no problem with the governing body's new light on taking various fragments.
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brainmelt
I like your style. I really hope that it gets at least one of them thinking. I do try hard and get my family to think about the blood issue in the hope that they will wake up. Our son receives regular blood tranfusions as part of his treatment, in fact he has had 7 red blood and 6 platelet transfusions in the last 3 months - this has been a big mind blow to our families. Thankfully we had already woken up and started our fade before our child became ill and we'd already made our minds up on the blood issue. It was very upsetting for our JW families when they found out he'd have to get blood but they've managed to justify it to themselves that its 'ok' because the law would ensure that he would be given blood anyway even if we objected. What they don't seem to be able to see is that the law and the medical profession care more for our son than what their so called 'loving' organisation does. If left up to the WTBTS then our child would have died before his 5th birthday. That really, really sickens me and I'm so frustrated that none of them can see that.
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Update on my fade
by wizzstick init's been over 3 months since i first posted after years of lurking:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/253883/1/my-story-a-kinda-newbie-from-the-uk#.ukhopt-yza8.
and what a 3 months it's been.
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brainmelt
I'm so pleased for you and your wife and family and wish you all the very best. Continue to tread carefully with your wife, let her slowly come to her own conclusions. I agree with the poster who said to show her JWFacts, everything is so logical on there and it will help her greatly. Have plenty of fun things planned for the weekends - let her sleep in sometimes, go for brunch, daytrips. Weekends are just amazing when you don't have to get up early and drag the kids to field service and meetings. You will all feel better just being able to relax instead of wasting the entire weekend on JW stuff.
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Quick Poll - How many are...
by mrhhome inhow many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.
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brainmelt
Both hubby and I are inactive, last turned in field service report in March, last attended a meeting in April. I view myself as no longer a JW because I don't believe any of it, I'm an atheist and I have no plans to return ever.
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"You knew what the consequences were when YOU decided to leave The Truth. This is YOUR decision and the outcome is YOUR responsibility."
by nicolaou inhow many of us have had to deal with a version of that retort?!
it's hurtful and i suspect - for some - that's partly because of the nagging feeling that our families may have a point.. but do they?.
i was 15 when i got baptised, is it reasonable that as the 50 year old man i'll be on my next birthday i continue to be held to a decision i made as a schoolboy?.
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brainmelt
I made the decision when I was 15 to get baptised, based on the information and influences that I had at the time, I was being raised in a JW family and I at the time thought that it was the truth and the right thing to do. I didn't know any better. I was a child, I was still at school. Now 15 years later, I have changed my mind. I don't believe in god anymore so my so called 'dedication' to god means diddly squat to me now. I've made a decision to leave the 'Truth' now based on the information that I have available to me now. I refuse to raise my children in a religion that I don't believe to be true and I'm at the point where I don't care what anyone says. I'm an adult and I'll make my own decisions and I refuse to be made guilty about an uninformed decision I made in my childhood.
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Do You Think The Witnesses Actually Know What They Believe In?
by minimus ini think they know what they don't believe in, like no blood, no hellfire, no trinity....but they really couldn't explain what their beliefs are and why they believe as they do.
do you agree?
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Nope, I think most of them are just in it for the social life. I know I didn't know everything I was supposed to believe in, once I started out what was a genuine attempt to reeducate myself in my JW beliefs, I realised that they were all nonsense and that I could no longer identify myself as one of JW's and admit to holding these beliefs.
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Young man walks out of Glasgow convention and commits suicide
by jambon1 inlast weekend.
so unbelievably sad.
rip.
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brainmelt
Thats so awful. I do remember reading something on my Twitter feed that day about train lines being closed in the area due to someone being on the lines, I've had a quick google but can only find an article about the train lines being disrupted, no more info other than that. Terribly sad :(
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My story so far
by brainmelt ini've been trying to avoid posting this, due to extreme paranoia but its time to post my story.
i hope to not post too many details, as we've avoided being df so far, our group elder was young and lovely and cool and i just hope that in time he learns the ttatt.. i'm a regular lurker on here, occasional poster (i can't post much as my phone browser only lets me read but not post, so i only post on the odd occasion i get a time alone on the pc).
i have been fading since round about last september ( so almost my first anniversary of learning ttatt).
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brainmelt
Thanks so much for all your kind comments and well wishes, the little one is doing ok at the moment and treatment is going to plan for now, still a long way to go but we'll get there :)
dissonance_resolved - a bit of both really. First of all it helped that he didn't like going out in FS so he would always make excuses not to go out, he still planned to go to meetings on his own but he didn't like to go alone so him missing more meetings meant that he was away from all the mind control and was free to think for himself. He was interested in Russells links with pyramidology, that got him looking into ancient cultures and the similarities in many stories. I got him thinking about things like the blood issue, the flood, 607/1914. He has always been interested in nature and animals and it was easy to get him watching documentaries such as the Brian Cox Wonders of Life series to really get him thinking. He now has reconnected with some old ex JW friends so he has some great conversations with them.
It wasn't easy to start with because he still held onto so many JW teachings but he got there fairly quickly, I just had to learn to bite my tongue and not tell him the whole TTATT at once. Good luck with your husband, you will get there in time.
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What was YOUR wake-up call before you left the JW´s organization?
by Mr Fool inwhat was your wake-up call(s) before you left the jw s organization?
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brainmelt
Realising that I couldn't find any mention of a paradise earth anywhere in the Bible got alarm bells ringing.
Realising that the WT explanation of evolution/dinosaurs/animals being vegetarian was all nonsense.
Realising that I was approaching 30 and there was still no sign of Armaggedon.
Realising that trying to raise children in the 'truth' was completely unnatural - no celebrations, no friends, having to drag them to meetings when they should have been in bed, having to drag them around the doors when they should have been playing, the sadness on my sons face when he wasn't allowed to join in the nativity play at preschool. So many things.
The blood doctrine.
What finally woke me up was the whole 607/1914 thing. When that fell apart, everything fell apart.
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Was Your Leaving The Witnesses A Very Gradual Process Or A Quick One?
by minimus infor me, it took many years.. even when i would read all the changes over the years from the "truth", i still would ignore it and "wait on jehovah" and try to be a positive force in the congregation.. eventually, i just couldn't take it anymore and resigned as an elder, and slowly but surely made my fade.. what about you?
were you out, in a short or longer time?
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brainmelt
I started researching my doubts last October, started to 'fade' early this year, dropped Thursday meetings in February, went out in service once a month and my last meeting was in April. So it was all fairly quick, about 6 months but it felt like forever and I got to the point where I knew I couldn't continue anymore so I just quit, husband followed me out.