Posts by cultBgone

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Any Senior Citizens, Retirees here?

by AlwaysBusy in

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howdy....well, what do you think?

of everything?

is it all crazy?

cultBgone

Had plenty saved for retirement but unexpectedy had a family, which took care of those funds and then some. I never expected to be working full time at 61, but with rising prices and no longer owning a home, I'll have to keep working for another 5 years to reap some decent social security if it's still around.

Although living in south Florida really makes me want to be retired, I'm happy to have a fun job working with energetic entrepreneurs who are generous with their employees. I've worked through that dreadful realization of mortality we all get when leaving the bOrg and now figure I have at least 25-30 good years to enjoy this life!

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can an unhappy married woman vent?

by sowhatnow in

i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .

let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].

he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.

cultBgone

Great comments and advice...and remember, it is NEVER too late! Some of us older than you may have a more difficult time "starting over", but you are a spring chick! Three decades to LIVE, go live it and get away from that misery.

YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY, BUT THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN MAKE YOU HAPPY IS YOU.

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Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

by kneehighmiah in

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the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

i was talking to a jw last night.

cultBgone

I know some female jdubs in their 20s who are great fun and quite spiritual in a non-pretentious jw way (they don't look down on others). Yet they have fallen victim to the "dowdy" dress standards encouraged by the bOrg and the obesity issue does not seem to register as a problem with them. They don't understand that their cheerful, spiritual personalities are not enough to attract a mate.

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JWs & Guilt Trips

by skeeter1 in

the watchtower is a manipulator.

one of the tools they use is guilt, and they use it via the "guilt trip.

" just so we are clear, a guilt trip is:.

cultBgone

Group think and catchphrases are well documented in Orwellian literature. Skeeter's right about the wts teachings being perfect examples.

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I tried to make an elder feel guilty for shunning his 2 children.

by Jeannette in

i ran into an elder the other day at walmart.

he's a fairly good man and has a wife that is very sickly.

so sickly in fact i don't know how she's holding on.

cultBgone

I think it's the years and years of toxic load carried from continual cognitive dissonance. The mind and body are not distinctly separate entities but function as a unit, and the stress felt by the brain wears down the body's immune system. Sometimes when a physician says "It's all in your head" he may actually be right, not as to imagining a disease but as to the source of the immune system deficiency.

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Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

by cultBgone in

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i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

cultBgone

Thank you all for sharing your wonderful stories, please keep them coming. This is an amazing collection of experiences.

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Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

by cultBgone in

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friends

i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

cultBgone

I was thinking about how so many posters here on JWN are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of JWs, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones. I considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:

Did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member? Did you start to listen to the misgivings in your own conscience or did a comment from family rattle your senses?

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DEMONS: the torment I suffered

by Terry in

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when i was in my teens i wanted a room of my own, but i lived with my grandparents whose house was very small.. my uncle had been living in a little one room bed-sitter way out in the backyard.

he married and moved away and i moved in.. it was quite isolated and the ceiling was six feet from the floor.

unfortunately, the top of my head was four inches higher than that!

cultBgone

Exploitation of human frailties makes the indoctrination easy....it's like Mary Poppins' spoonful of sugar. Nice explanation, Terry!

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Dilbert Comics On Cognitive Dissonance

by frankiespeakin in

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cultBgone

If only jdubs would actually apply this to themselves...but they won't. They'll just point to it as another example of how fruitless it is to be wrapped up in a corporate job when you could be out *joyfully preaching the good news of jw.org*.

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Brother Knorr's Cadillac and other secret perks

by tim hooper in

back when i was a wee lad, my dad told me that the brothers in brooklyn had voted to purchase a cadillac motor car for the sole use of the then president, nathan h knorr.

he'd got this information from the london bethel, him being a chum of the then branch overseer, pryce hughes and his pal ron drage.

religious leaders of non-profit sects are supposed to take a vow of poverty!.

cultBgone

I think the PERKS were better defined by Rutherford's two hugely expensive Cadillacs and his "perfect" mansion in California (oh, just tell them it's for the return of the prophets...hahahaha!).