Heellloooooooooooooooo Hopper and all other newbies I missed
Brummie ( kinda newbie too)
Heellloooooooooooooooo Hopper and all other newbies I missed
Brummie ( kinda newbie too)
just read a thread about a guy being a forth generation witness and a question came to mind.
how is it that jw's can rationalize the end being always "just around the corner" when there is soon to be 4th, 5th, and maybe 6th generation witnesses?
just how is it that the previous generations can continue to follow so blindly after one failed prediction after another of never getting old in this "system of things"?.
Out...after the 1st world war proved NOT to be the armaggedon of Scripture they shifted armaggedon to being ...Just on the horizen, then plenty of dates came and went. Then it was...just around the corner...now its..on the doorstep. its all evolutionary, next we will be told that its in the living room and quickly passing out through the back door (as usual).
Lies....they dont really understand what "lies" means, its a complicated word for them, they prefer to call them "readjusted truths"
Brummie
this is the last email i received from jan, she sent it yesterday.
the power of one
one song can spark a moment,
From what I've read in the short time I've been here Prisca always posts a good post, this one is is no exception!
Did I miss something? The post never said that Jan G had died.. OMG hope its a misunderstanding.
Brummie
Edited to say I have just read the other thread
Edited by - Brummie on 22 October 2002 9:28:43
does anyone know this the rev?
i think he's posted on [email protected] before and i had a disagreement with him.
i think he and my father would get along.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
, D'Haene falls into the politically correct trap of equating sexual abuse and rape, two entirely different things.
Since when did vile crimes such as this become an issue of political correctness? Talk about missing the point! ...when did rape stop being a matter of sexual abuse? I'd like to cross examine this twit in court, and he has the nerve of accusing you of raising yet not answering questions
Thank God he is only a raving looney Rev and not one that sits in the courts judging these perverts.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Brummie
Kenneson: Donald, I wouldn't lose any sleep over this "critique."
i'm in the questioning mood so here goes:.
1, can paedophiles change for the better?
if they change should we forgive them?
Thanks for your responses, appreciated. Willy_ good response, "Arms length" means keeping him at a distance, I would never let anyone near my kids who had such a record regardless of how long ago or how converted they claimed to be, I have trust issues i guess.
Wednesday, I am a Person Centred advanced counsellor (Carl Rogers type) undergoing more training to broaden the horizens. The guy has been convicted by police for his past crime and served time so I didnt need to persue that, however since I can relate to your past experience I didnt feel capable of dealing to much with his counselling need, I suggested he seek a more behavioural type of therapy such as pyschodynamic.
Have to go, work beckons (ugh)
Will get back to this thread later, thanks again to all
Brummie
i'm in the questioning mood so here goes:.
1, can paedophiles change for the better?
if they change should we forgive them?
I'm in the questioning mood so here goes:
1, Can paedophiles change for the better? If they change should we forgive them? what do you think? I was counselling a guy a while ago and eventually, after weeks of building a friendship, he confessed to having been a ped about 12 years previous(cringe), he is going back into the JWs after being dis'fd a few years ago for other things. It seems they are welcoming him with open arms and its convincing him to go back, he even goes to Tues book study! I was privately reproved for reading Rays book back in the late 80's and put on probabtion for 6 months (geeesh I missed microphone and car park privaleges) and I couldnt answer up in book study, another freind of mine wasnt even allowed to go to the book study but only the KH, yet here's a guy who is guilty of a hidious crime and yet is allowed to speak to other JWs and go to all the meetings! I no longer communicate with this guy, decided to call it a day when he came out with his confessions. Point is, he says he's recovered from his past lifestyle, should we believe him and forgive? Naturally we cant forgive him for the wrong he has done to someone else but should we forever hold him at arms length? Or try to view him as a changed person
2, Have heard of so many people who left the WT after reading Rays book CofC, yet I still couldnt leave after reading that and plenty of others, Randys "Thus saith" was extremely powerful but I was still unable to get out and let go of it completely, even carried on pioneering, I was pig thick to say the least. Anyone here still struggling even after reading these? Or was you able to leave straight away after reading something like this? I read these now and wonder how on earth I could have stayed a second more.
For those in UK....I got freeserve as my ISP and a lot of times keep loosing the connection and disconnecting after a few mins....grrrrrrrrrr...sometimes its fine and connects at 46 bps and stays on for 2 hours without interuption..but recently its been going as low as 9bps...whose your server and could you recommend anyone better that provides a good connection? Have checked every other troubleshooter and its got to be the server. We cant get broadband or DSL in my area...:(
Brummie
yup... you got that right!
"do you imagine i came to give peace on the earth?
no, indeed, i tell you, but rather division" --luke 12:51. pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock.
Like how would WT dis'fing Jesus make a difference anyhow? They dont speak to him already! ... they shun just about everyone that speaks to Jesus, same way as they shun anyone who speaks to us who are dis'as or difd. He wouldnt even notice the difference.
So hey they dis'f him and then refuse to talk to the one they have never spoken to anyway...small change huh
Brummie
ok englands ready to rock the boat again!
silentlambs march in uk will take place on march 29th 2003. its only 5 months away so please advertise and make this a significant event for the uk victims who continue to suffer.
a lot of scared victims came out of the woodwork after panorama and felt able to speak out for the first time, there's plenty more yet to speak out so lets support them by raising awareness on this march.
OK Englands ready to rock the boat again! Silentlambs march in UK will take place on March 29th 2003. Its only 5 months away so please advertise and make this a significant event for the UK victims who continue to suffer. A lot of scared victims came out of the woodwork after Panorama and felt able to speak out for the first time, there's plenty more yet to speak out so lets support them by raising awareness on this march.
Just so we can get an idea of how many will be expected to march please email me to confirm whether you can come along or not, you are the first to be given confirmation of the date of the march. [email protected]
heeeeeelllllppppppppp
Brummie
fun things for us apostates to do at the kh..
pull aside an unruly child and say: "if you're bad in here, you'll go to die at armageddon.".
put stray dogs in library.
How about dig up CTRussell and sit him clean up the front of the KH?
Seriousley this thread has been splitting my sides!
especially this one:
Start a wave.....bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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site dicusses silentlambs, ngo, 1914, and other topics, offering fresh biblical perspective.
http://www.e-watchman.com/index.html
after 5 mins browsing it seems to me to be another guy tring to take a drink out of wells without water.
There is no justification for trying to make out that God is behind the Watchtower yet he is going to judge it regardless like he did Israel. I could be wrong but this seems to be the thread on that Url. Are you saying that Jah favours the WTS somehow but will judge it and restore it? Or have I misunderstood in my browsing effort. It doesnt seem to be tackling tough issues either, as regarding being refreshing its just same ole same ole.
It is clear from the outset that Jah was never with the WT society, the WT origins (Christ return in 1874 etc) are as false as the men that continue to run it, God has never supported a false prophet like the WT or a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Brummie