Way to go Chris!!!!!
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I graduated from college today
by ChrisVance in.
at the age of 53 i graduated from arizona state university with a bachelor's in spanish.
when everyone stood for the national athem i felt a little guilty at first, but i soon got over it!
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I know how they do it!
by spec in.
alright it has only taken me 25 years but i have worked out how they get you to believe.. in all the publications they always present both sides of the story in a logical and often scientific way.
this makes you feel that you don't have to research further because you already know the other side.. the truth is they don't have the truth.
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wheelwithinwheel
They spew the rhetoric that reassures the reader that both sides of any question are being completely examined and weighed. Then they make sure to keep everyone busy enough studying ha!, and re-studying ha-ha!!, and underlining ha-ha-ha!!!, this holy crap to completely extinguish any further interest in research .
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Opinions/Advice needed
by joannadandy inok here is my deal.... for those of you who don't know already i have never been df'd or da'd.
i just quit going, and was never baptized.
(that will become relevant later).
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wheelwithinwheel
I think some JW feel, when you leave you leave J, but they also feel some rejection on the personal level. Ive talked to some JWs who have ignored me and after breaking the ice they are quite nice and seem relieved that I still want to talk to them. After the initial reintroduction they continue being friendly (hoping Ill go back? could be the reason). I cant say if you friend will fall into this category so if you go prepare yourself to be hurt. I still go to JW get togethers on occasion and some do totally ignore me, but I believe my presence reminds them Im still around and may get them thinking (duh). I definitely recommend the card and gift idea. Make the decision you will be comfortable with.
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HELP! WT denies possesion of personal data
by izobcenec inoto lutar, former jw, recently sent this letter to our branch office in slovenia:.
dear sirs.
2001 when i was disfellowshiped.
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wheelwithinwheel
Unless the case is very complicated there probably wasnt much correspondence and anyway you can be sure now that everything has been destroyed or filed away where you would never be able to get it. IMO the few papers they might? have wouldnt be worth the trouble of retrieving. They do not keep much paper work on anyone. They dont need any. They do whatever they want without it.
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How to Fly Under the Radar
by metatron init's taken me a while to overcome my intense bitterness - but i'm finally mending.. -- and that makes it easier to 'fly under the radar' when meeting witnesses!.
i bumped into a young witness mother at a mall.
i flattered her and told her about.
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wheelwithinwheel
We've chiseled away too and managed to get our best friends out. The husband, who resisted most, has finally been checked off in my book of outs. Now were working on another couple. They invite us, or accept an invitation to go out, in hopes of getting us to go back, but we pack our chisels and work away. We had another couple in the works but I think the husband (elder) discovered some cracks developing and has suspending our chiseling for now.
To the chiselers!!!!!
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What the WT took from me.. is it gone 4ever?
by LyinEyes ini was raised jw, so i have nothing to go back to as far as belief.
the wt has been exposed to me as nothing but a bunch of lies, coverups, failed predictions, interpreting the bible to fit their teachings etc.
now i stand here,,,,,,,,,,,, with no belief system at all.
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We feel like you do. We debate these questions often, my wife and I and some friends. What we seem to agree on is we were had. Lately we have come to accept that we allowed ourselves to be had as one person repeats constantly -we were the dummies. Right now were talking about why this happened
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Talk: JWs are not go to a gym???
by WingCommander ini remember just a few short years back at my old congregation, there were a few younger brothers and sisters joining gyms and going to work out.
well, i guess the elders found out that everyone's free time wasn't being spent pioneering, so a talk (down to) was given one sunday on "not letting worldy pursuits take your eyes off the prize" or some shit like that.
the whole talk was about how we should devote all time to the wts and field service, and that going to or belong to a gym was just a worldly pursuit and that it was just making or bodies "showy".
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wheelwithinwheel
Around here it was okay for brothers to work out - then a group of sisters decided to go - that got the elders going and they banned it saying the sisters would end up running off with the hunks at the gym. Apparently woman only use gyms to cruise.
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JW story on PBS
by wheelwithinwheel inkavanagh q.c.
: bearing witness
(drama) religious beliefs cause parents to refuse medical help for their ailing son.
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wheelwithinwheel
Kavanagh Q.C. : Bearing Witness (Drama) Religious beliefs cause parents to refuse medical help for their ailing son.
Jw's on PBS
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Brain Washing? Mind Control?
by Sirona indo the jehovahs witnesses use brain washing or mind control techniques?.
if a good dub attends 5 hours of meetings a week, does 2 hours of service a week and does 1 hour of personal study a week, this adds up to 416 hours a year of time thinking and being "taught" about jehovahs witness beliefs.
416 hours adds up to about 11 working weeks a year!
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Gig: It would follow that the journey out of the org. begins when the WT loses control of your BITE interesting!
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have you been tricked about honesty?
by wheelwithinwheel ini was brought up to believe i was part of the only honest group of people on the planet.
the worldly people were gougers, thieves and downright dishonest.
when wed go to the mall and some charity would ask for a donation, my parents would politely refuse, then tell us kids the charity was crooked and skimmed off most of the money for itself.
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wheelwithinwheel
I was brought up to believe I was part of the only honest group of people on the planet. The worldly people were gougers, thieves and downright dishonest. When wed go to the mall and some charity would ask for a donation, my parents would politely refuse, then tell us kids the charity was crooked and skimmed off most of the money for itself. Stories were told about some J.W finding a large sum of money and returning it. It was always emphasized that the only reason the money was returned was because this person was part of the uniquely honest organisation on earth.
Lately Ive realised that my parents and the WT may have been misleading me.
About a month ago I lost my wallet. It was returned intact along with some items that had fallen out of it. Surprisingly Id never seen this good Samaritan at the hall. The cross around her neck led me to conclude she is part of Babylon the Great. I cant imagine how this pagan lady could be so honest. She didnt even swipe my cash!
This morning on T.V I saw a story about a lady who returned $3300. This even though she is $15,000 in debt, her husband is unemployed and her baby is very sick. She said she didnt even think of keeping the money! What I cant understand is that the interview didnt even mention she was a J.W. ...... unless she isnt?
Maybe I was tricked and there are a lot of honest people out there.
Isnt is strange how the J.W.s are always harping on how the world is getting worse and worse degenerating they call it ..... but if you take off your WT-issued glasses you see all this good people. Too bad theyll all be destroyed at Armageddon.