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  I need you to pray for me, I absolutely want to die right now. I feel so horrible right now.

  by miseryloveselders in

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  i just massacred and entire bag of oreo cookies and quarter gallon of milk.

  my stomach is killing me.

  ohh, i just want to croak right now.

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  wheelwithinwheel

  Misery

  IMO spending Friday night with an old bag is not good. You need to be out with someone hot. I think you're stuck in neutral. Get on with life. Resign as an elder. Get 'r done. Make plans to ask your boss out for a drink next Friday night. Give her a few days notice, so she can think about it if she needs to. If she dodges it politely don't be too upset...she may just feel it's inappropriate. Don't take it necessarily as being personal.

  Remember however this could compromise your fade. There is always a JW around at the wrong time. If you feel you must play it safe, ask a few co-workers along as accusation protection.

  But if you are feeling adventurous just prepare a good story in case you are seen. It shouldn't be difficult to find an excuse. After all, she's your boss.

  Just my take on the Oreo binge but it is your Friday to live as you like. But remember there are just so many Fridays in a lifetime.

  Wheels
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  This is my story

  by XPeterX in

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  born in.20 years old.only mom is in the truth.i have 2 sisters the one studies occasionally.dad agrees with jw stuff but won't join.i am unbaptised publisher since i was 12,i used to read from the bible and comment but not anymore since february.i seldom miss meetings and go door to door often (well not as often as i should).few or none will call me out of the 125 persons of my congregation and i can't say i know them at all (except 2 persons) even though i 'know' them since 1998.i try to stick to the rule "no wordly friends" but when it comes to friendships in the jw world i end up alone.i honestly know that this situation is encountered by many teens in the org.

  globally.maybe that's what jesus said about the absence of love in the last days..

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  A friend who had left the J.W’s used to believe he and would die at Armageddon. Then he read Crisis of Conscience and changed his mind.

  I assure you that if you don’t die of a disease, accident or natural disaster, you will die of old age. Armageddon is a much an illusion as 1914 is.

  If you’re not convinced after reading C of C, read Russell’s books. There are digital copies on line that you can download. Here’s what he puts forward as proof for his 1914 date:

  The " Descending Passage," from tlie entrance of the

  Great Pyramid, leading to the " Pit " or " Subterranean

  Chamber," represents the course of the world in general

  (under the prince of this world). into the great time of

  trouble (the " Pit "), in which evil shall be brought to an

  end. The measuring of this period and determining d e n

  the pit of trouble shall be reached are easy enough if

  we have a definite date-a point in the Pyramid L-om

  which to start. We have this date-mark in the junction

  of the " First Ascending Passage" with the "Grand

  Gdery." That point rnarks the birth o£ our Lord Jesus.

  as the " Well," 33 inches farther on, indicates his death.

  So, then, if we measure backward down the "First

  Ascending Passage" to its junction with the " Entrance

  Passage," we shall have a fixed date to mark upon the

  donnward passage. This measure is 1542 inches, and

  indicates the year B. C. 1542, as the date at that point.

  Then measuring abwn the " Entrance Passage" from that

  point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit,"

  representing the great trouble and destruction witb

  which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown

  from pomer, me find it to be 3457 inches, syrnbolizing

  3457 years from tlie above date, B. c. I 542. This calculation

  shows A. D. 191 5 as marking the beginning of the

  pkod of trouble; for 1542 years B. c. plus 1915 years

  A. D. equals 3457 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses

  that the close o£ 1914will be the bea&ning of the time .

  of trouble such as was not since there was a nation-no,

  nor ever shall be afterward. And thus it will be noted

  that this " Witness" fully corroborates the Bible testimony

  on this subject, as shown by the "Parallel Dispensations"

  in SCRIPTUSRTEU DIESV,O L. 11.. Chap. vii.

  Nor should any doubt the fact that the forty years

  o£ "harvest" began in the Ea11 of 1874
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  America's Got Talent and the G.B.

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  the beginning of the a.g.t.

  season always gets me shaking my head in disbelief.

  i am amazed at the number of people who have extreme delusions of their talents and capabilities.

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  The beginning of the A.G.T. season always gets me shaking my head in disbelief. I am amazed at the number of people who have extreme delusions of their talents and capabilities. My wife believes these people have to be planted by the producer, to amuse the public, but I’m not so sure. I wonder about Russell, Rutherford … and the current G.B. They all believed(believe) they are extremely gifted. They are absolutely convinced they are capable of explaining Bible symbolism (Revelation and company). But obviously they are not even qualified to explain Jesus’ meaning of “a generation”

  If they were to strut their stuff on A.G.T, how would things turn out?

  Pierce has no patience for juggler’s who drop the ball and magiciens who mess up on their illusions.

  Would they be X’d off immediately or allowed to move on to Vegas?

  Would things be clearer for current J.W.’s if they were sitting in their living rooms, instead of at their KH’s?

  Would the G.B. get their vote?
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  Please post your comments on this pro-JW article

  by Nathan Natas in

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  link: http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features-the-religion-world/2010/05/19/jehovahs-witness-magazine-is-worlds-most-widely-read/comment-page-1/#comment-439.

  jehovah's witness magazine is world's most widely read .

  jehovah - posted by anika palm on may, 19 2010 2:02 pm.

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  "Despite rumors to the contrary, women can write for The Watchtower, but not on scriptural matters. “That’s what the Bible indicates according to our concept of it,” says assignment editor John Wischuck. “If they wanted to write something about dressmaking, a sister could do that. It might be in another case that she interviews another woman and writes up her life story. That would go through an editor or a rewrite.”

  Yes JW’s get lots of important WT articles on dressmaking. Isn’t this comment the equivalent of saying, “Despite rumors to the contrary, Blacks can write for The Watchtower…"If they wanted to write about picking cotton, a Black could do that.”

  “If you believe angels get upset when sisters don’t wear hats…you’re probably a J.W. male”
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  The evidently thread

  by JeffT in

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  since the term "this generation" evidently means "two generations" i think we should have our discussion of things that are evidently true.

  no need to limit it to the bible, but i'll start off with one.. 1 tim.

  3 "2now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife" evidently means everybody else can have as many wives as they want.

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  wheelwithinwheel

  Since the generation explanation is constantly changing, the governing body is evidently confused.
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  Wow, it works

  by sd-7 in

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  i got a new gravatar.

  no more purple alien for me.

  time to get back to meaningful discussions about the watchtower society.

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  How about all the dads, included “WT stamped approvies” being permitted to watch on their flat screen, and even actually attend, pretty much all types of competitive sporting events. You can go with your BOE buddies or even bring your J.W family along.

  But J.W kids can’t even participate in local school sports. If you think about it, it’s not the “competition” that bothers the WT. That spin is put on to keep the kids and their parents away from the “worldlies”.

  If you believe competition is wrong and forbid your kids to play sports at school but watch all kinds of sporting events on T.V. you’re probably a J.W dad.
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  Newspaper article collection, 1950's onward

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  interesting collection of old newspaper articles about witness conventions and such in the 1950's onward:.

  http://ia331426.us.archive.org/3/items/watchtowernewsscrapbook/watchtower_news_scrap_book.pdf.

  the articles and pictures are revealing..

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  wheelwithinwheel

  Thanks!
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  The reporting of field service time

  by lepermessiah in

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  were any of you really bothered/still bothered by the practice of field service reporting?.

  there was an old post on here that got me thinking how the practice got started.. instead of simply being a tool to monitor the progress of the faith, or to see if the work was done "throughout the earth", it appears to me that it was just a tool used to keep the presses rolling and to see how much literature to produce - along with controlling the rank and file.

  the average jw gives it no thought, its just another "blessing" from the organization when you hear the monthly reports, etc.. the organization is so statistics-driven that they make jesus out to be a ceo with people who need to meet their sales quotas.i'm sure he really wouldnt care if peter and andrew got 20 hours one month and john got 25. wait, maybe thats why john was "beloved" .

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  If you believe…

  it’s necessary to write down and report the time you spend talking about God, and can actually get yourself into trouble if you don’t…

  you probably are a J.W.
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  Borg court: 2nd session

  by sd-7 in

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  judicial committee, round 2. i have to give it to the elders on this one.

  they fought well, albeit with unrefined technique.

  pure strength of authority apparently seems to make up for a lack of sufficient evidence, just as the 300-pound fellow who believed you were checking out his girlfriend can beat the tar out of you even though you were merely looking at the clock behind her on the wall.

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  Why not ask your wife if she'd like to attend with you

  She might learn more about the org. at this next session than you can ever teach her by yourself

  If they tell her to leave you both should be emphatic and insist she be there - you are one flesh...let no man...etc.

  The discussion you guys will be having is sure going to affect your familie's life and she should be and has a right to be present
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  Who’s smarter, Catholics or J.W.’s?

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  as i was growing up my dad would always make a special effort to enlighten his catholic brother-in-law.

  hed ask my uncle to get out his catholic bible and show him scriptures.

  one of his favourite arguments was the doctrine of the popes infallability.

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  As I was growing up my dad would always make a special effort to enlighten his Catholic brother-in-law. He’d ask my uncle to get out his Catholic Bible and show him scriptures. One of his favourite arguments was the doctrine of the Pope’s infallability. Dad would ask “How can a reasonable person believe a mere human is infallible?” Another subject that was rehashed many times was the trinity. Dad would always comment the math aspect and ask “How is it possible to add 1+1+1 and get 1 for an answer. My uncle would listen, just smile and remark, “You’re dwelling on details”. These details seemed unimportant to him.

  My uncle was baptised Catholic, learned Catholic doctrine and will be having a Catholic funeral. I don’t believe my uncle ever imagined the Pope was perfect and I don’t think he worried excessively about the trinity being true or not. He led his life by his personal principles, taking into consideration his faith when he felt it appropriate and ignoring Church doctrine he disagreed with.

  My dad, on the other hand, would often say the G.B were not infallible. He would tell us the group was made up of imperfect men that made mistakes. But it never seemed to occur to him to question their ideas or math. He believed, obeyed and planned his life around them. When he receives the April 15 th Watchtower concerning “this generation” he will once again adjust his thinking and his math to conform to the new light. Of course, he’s quite used to math-adjusting by this time. The strange thing is, it just occurred to me, that the latest 1+1=1 is bringing him closer to the 1+1+1=1 that he once argued impossible.

  So the April Watchtower got me to thinking: Who’s more intelligent?

  The Catholics? Their church tells them their leader is infallible and 1+1+1=1. But the Catholics don’t seem to believe it or worry about it and certainly don’t plan their life accordingly.

  Or the J.W.’s? Their church tells them their leaders are merely imperfect men. And now they teach 1+1=1. But the J.W.’s seem to accept and believe every word coming out of their church’s mouths. They make sure to keep their ideas in line with the latest church thoughts and are even willing to bet their lives on them.

  wheels turning…