chapter 1.. the year is 1972 and it appears vietnam will soon be a closed chapter for this country and for me the start of one that will define my destiny in life.
my best friend john and i are freshmen in high school and we take great joy in debating religion.
he is a newly baptized jw and i am a renegade catholic.
Thanks Vic,
I ask myself :
If a memorial wall was constructed for all the WT victims, how many names would there be ? How many would visit to grieve ? I believe the numbers would be astounding. So many injured for life. So many lost to the cause.
Each one here could name many.
It should be done. It could be done
if that was already posted yesterday, i apologize.
i've been too busy to be here much.. i watched the tv show, third watch on monday night.
the paramedics went to an apartment of an elderly woman who was having heart failure.
just a dub on set countin' time ... does make you wonder what provoked the heart-attack though
someone who i do not know sent the following to me for posting.
it was in my email this morning ..... hmmm...... anyway, seems people in windsor are getting to the co because of the actions of a few people - have a read.. hawk.
jehovah's witnesses are under a type of ban in windsor on canada .
STICKERS! more effective that mags and tracts
i was looking at the post of,another member here and he stated how he hates when the elders come to harass his wife for not coming to the meetings,but what if they never come?
my wife has been missing from the meetings for almost a year now due to illness,and i have been missing the meetings dueto my relocating after the 9/11 attacks we get a phone call once every 2 months from one elder,and thats about it.we got a shepherding call only out of fear of what the circuit overseer might say to them for not seeing us.what to do?
I’m sorry to hear about your wife being ill.
Re visits : I guess we are of the fortunate few - we got a visit after the C.O. dragged one of the elders to our place during his week. I guess he was frustrated that we didn't attend his week, because in his Fri. talk to the cong. he mentioned his visit and quoted us, then he went on about some, who no longer attend, believing they are alive but are, in reality, quite dead (we had said that we felt alive when he visited). I’m sure he felt good about doing his duty and letting the cong. know he'd done it. We were classified...dead. He must have felt satisfied to fill it in on the society’s cong. report. After the C.O.'s visit some of the pubs. asked if we’d been visited, what had been said, and then let us know we’d been discussed on the platform (without naming names of course) !
I think they better understand physical sickness
i'm in a quandry.. came out of the organisation a few years ago, have spend a couple of chilled out christmasses in front of the fire.
no presents, decorations etc, no problem!
but... my little boy is getting older and my ex-husband (my son's father and also an ex-jw) is concerned that he will miss out, just like we did as kids.. but, i am reluctant to do the whole christmas thing.
last year one of my customer's asked me when I was going to give him a Christmas card - I gave him a card and gift - this year he asked me to his companie's Christmas party - so now I guess I'm going to be a real pagan - hope no J.W's are there ha-ha ... might get myself df'd
bible teaching: focus of jehovah's witnesses conventions .
by vicente b. foz .
education is a vital part of one's daily life, and every person should have a right to study and learn in order to live well and long - even forever.
it's coming out both ends - too bad the r&f don't see these forked-tongued old farts for what they are
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f8a02880/bc/pets/gbmeeting.jpg?bcprjr8a2vkw89x.. .
because of a techno-glitch i dont think youll be seeing the meeting just yet.
however if you right-click on the red x - go into properties - copy the url address (this works better from left to right) - put the address into you browser - then return to the thread and copy the text beginning with ?
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f8a02880/bc/pets/gbmeeting.jpg?bcprJR8A2Vkw89x.
because of a techno-glitch I don’t think you’ll be seeing the meeting just yet. However if you right-click on the red x - go into properties - copy the url address (this works better from left to right) - put the address into you browser - then return to the thread and copy the text beginning with ? following the red x (make sure to include the dot at the end - add the text to the address ending in jpg already in your browser - press return et voilà ... the private meeting of the governing body ! ! !
Have fun
i feel cheated because i wouldnt know what its like to experience pregnancy and the birth of my children the way it was meant to be.. a completely natural and joyous event in human life was sabotaged by this religion!.
im sure there are others who know what i mean.. i would be interested to hear stories of others who have had children both inside and out of this organization.. i would like to explain what i mean.. i was raised as a witness and was always expected to be an example.
from as far back as i can remember we were taught that armageddon was just around the corner.
I was a mistake born to a pioneer couple. I knocked my parents out of the pioneer service. They had been living in a room, my dad working 1 day a week for $5. He had a hard time finding a job. He had no skills, was over 30 and had never had a real job. Later, when he decided the family needed a car, he was regarded as materialistic by the congregation.
As a youngster I well remember the talks telling unmarried brothers and sisters to stay single, and married couples to remain childless. One DA talk went into particular detail about Jerusalem’s destruction, stressing the point that starving mothers ATE THEIR OWN CHILDREN...woe to the pregnant woman at Armageddon ! It was very clear that there would be matricides at Armageddon and anyone getting pregnant would deeply regret it
I think the currant baby boom mentioned, shows that many are tired of the WT’s prophecies of doom. One forty-year-old sister in my congregation went around telling all she was going to get pregnant before it was too late, and she wasn’t talking about Armageddon. Everyone cheered her on and she is now the proud mother of a baby boy. Next she is going for a brother or sister and no one is stumbled.
well, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!
no, we dont want back in.
a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).
My experience is the hardest part is sitting through the talk
well, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!
no, we dont want back in.
a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).
My experience is the hardest part is sitting through the talk
