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Pro-Life or Pro-Choice--HELP

by Quincy in

ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!

good new right?

well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????

willy_think

If you ask any cop what is absolute proof of a persons identity they will tell you a DNA test. Test the fetus (not to be confused with the old person, the middle-aged person, adult person young person, child, toddler, baby, infant, premie) and you find that it's not the mother at all. DNA tests will not show age but they will show who the parents of the person being tested are without doubt.

Cancer cells don't do that, cancer has no individually unique makeup and parentage, only a person does at every level of development.

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Pro-Life or Pro-Choice--HELP

by Quincy in

ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!

good new right?

well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????

willy_think

Tell her Mom, tell your Mom, tell everyone you know, that you are a proud expecting farther. Don't let this be her dirty little secret. If this is something she is to do to then let her do it in the light. she can claim the right to kill the baby but she can't claim to have the right to make you go through this in a state of shamed desperate silence.

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Pro-Life or Pro-Choice--HELP

by Quincy in

ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!

good new right?

well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????

willy_think

here is a test to see if you can identify this specific group of cells?
some knowledge in cellular biology may be helpful
http://www.mttu.com/abort-pics/

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Pro-Life or Pro-Choice--HELP

by Quincy in

ok...3 days ago, i found out that i was going to be a father!!

good new right?

well then she says that she is considering having an abortion...which i am totally against....so we discussed it...then she started to think that she might have the child....so she talked it over with her twin sister...and she told her to get the abortion...now she says she wants the abortion...now i am upset...not onlly does she want the abortion...but she wants me to pay for the entire thing...so not only am i going to be terminating a developing life...but i have to pay for it????

willy_think

Bull shit! Pay for nothing have no part of it! so you told her you would support her, in any decision she made. You thought you could, now you know better, Tell her. what about you taking the baby at birth, would that inconvenience her too much? Or would it shame her to see the face she rejected?

Does she know what abortion is? Does she know that will sell the body parts, not as hunks of flesh, but as heads legs arms and torsos? has she spoken to women who have had abortion? This is no f-in joke if my X had an abortion my kid would me dead, and that is a fact.

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Questions from a non-JW

by imzadi in

jw
friends

some of you may remember me from the old h20 board.

at that time i was posting because a very close friend of my family was seriously dating a jw and i had questions.

well, my friend and the jw were married early this year and i still have questions.. the wedding had well over 200 guests in attendance and i knew most of them, meaning there were extremely few jws.

willy_think

It could well be she's still very much a JW. Leading dubble life is common.
Big worldly wedding = lots of material goods.
A house worming party with worldly people = lots of material goods.
Don't overlook the obvious.

The nice thing about the setup is if/when she comes out, she will still have family and friends.

Edited by - willy_think on 9 August 2002 2:14:19

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Is it really so? Is there an inner circle here?

by Celtic in

jw
friends

before some of you jump down my throat thinking i'm stirring muddied waters, i'm not, but, a question has been on my mind here more often than not, who exactly is the membership made up of here, within this community, of an inner circle so to speak?

you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours etc pile of poo.. personally, i've had enough of clicky groups and cliches to last me a lifetime, so, who are these guys that try to keep others excluded from their small brained 'in club'?.

celtic mark - cornwall uk

willy_think

It is true there is an inner circle here however, applications are not being accepted at this time.

I have begun the application process for the newly formed, star chamber inquisitors, the S.T.I. will be responsible for all judicial proceedings here at JWD and will be run following the proven WT standards. interested parties must be untrained, close-minded, and sexist men. If you fit the criteria feel free to apply.

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WT says 'Church Fathers were leading teachers'

by youdontknowhim in

was it jehovahs witnesses who acknowledge the church father as leading teachers?

this is a very interesting statement by justin.

do you accept origen as an authority when he said jesus is our god?

willy_think

Oh boy, don't get all bent out of shape, the post was fine. I agreed with it until you made the clam the WT believes in the trinity. your points show the WT doesn't believe what they print, however you have not show the WT believes in the trinity. It's a shame you chose to respond to butalbee question with hostility and ignored my direct responds to your posts content.

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WT says 'Church Fathers were leading teachers'

by youdontknowhim in

was it jehovahs witnesses who acknowledge the church father as leading teachers?

this is a very interesting statement by justin.

do you accept origen as an authority when he said jesus is our god?

willy_think

THEREFORE SAY THAT THESE MEN ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY AND THEY ARE JUST PLAYING MIND GAMES WITH THE JEHOVAHS WITNESSES?

That is not the only conclusion, looking at the WT actions over the years, I would say these men didn't believe in the trinity at all. I would, say these men didn't believe in the bible, but ab-use it as a source for materiel to publish.

It's hard to believe in God and lead people away from him, but for men who doesn't believe to begin with, well, it's all a game isn't it.

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Pregnant, HIV+ Woman " No Meds, Rely on God

by Cassiline in

i found this article of interest, because the jw's were mentioned by the senator from ireland.

i wonder how much of an impact this will have on the blood policy in ireland, if any at all?

the article does not say the woman was a jw or what faith she practiced.. any medical professional's see any reason for a jw to deny the use of retroviral drugs?

willy_think

I know Abortion is still illegal in Ireland many US citizens, not me, see it as "rule from the Vatican," they call the Irish law "oppressive to women."

How about this then: "the hell with it I'll just go to England and kill it next week."

An Irish woman with HIV going to England to have an abortion is hardly news. unless a judge were to have her confined so she could not leave the state until her baby is born.

The judges decision IS a step in the right direction, don't get me wrong, it's just sometimes I feel people are blind to the true horror happening every day. 5,000 dead baby's in the US today, 5,000 yesterday, 5,000 tomorrow and all the tomorrow's until we can stop the killing and no one is looking.

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Explain this then

by Legendary U.2.K. in

(quote, messiah christ jesus) - "but of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but "my father only" <--that's proof that christ is not god, cause if christ was infact god,'dont you think he would know about the coming of his kingdom, also christ said" my father only" , um he said my father, therefore christ is the son of god, infact !!

!christ prayed to god!!

!<---you cant ignore that.. all this cometh str from the bible, and the bible tongues has/been change, but no the words, everything is true.. so prove me wrong, um you cant, so pay attention....

willy_think

"MY FATHER ONLY" <---- This is proof that christ is not god, Cause if christ was infact god,'dont you think he would know about the coming of his kingdom,

That is not even a bible Quote! 3 words and you get it wrong.
This in proof of nothing, Jesus LOWERED himself to position of a slave, I think it is you who don't know what his kingdom is.
Jon 15:15
No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my father I have made known to you.

You need to look up the word pray, it's not worship it's: ask, request, talk.

RSV
John 8
23 He said to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for you will die in your sins unless you believe that I am he." 25 They said to him, "Who are you?" Jesus said to them, "Even what I have told you from the beginning. 26 I have much to say about you and much to judge; but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him." 27 They did not understand that he spoke to them of the Father. 28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority but speak thus as the Father taught me. 29 And he who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what is pleasing to him." 30 As he spoke thus, many believed in him.

John 14
7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; henceforth you know him and have seen him." 8 Philip said to him, "Lord, show us the Father, and we shall be satisfied." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

"RENICARNATED"

:to incarnate again
INCARNATE:
a : to give bodily form and substance to b (1) : to give a concrete or actual form to : Actualize (2) : to constitute an embodiment or type of <no one culture incarnates every important human value Denis Goulet>

Are YOU trying to FOOL me?
Again with the pray! Look it up, i pray you.

And it's a fact that Christ prayed to God, therefore, if people believe that christ is god, you trying to tell me, "GOD WAS PRAYING TO HIS OWN CREATION?

But you say if Christ is the logos, in his praying he was praying to (his father) "his own creation" now you call God the father a creation. I'll say nothing about this.

Cause It is true that Christ and his father are one, not the same person

wow! That's too confusing best not to think about it. lol

willy_think

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