Posts by Windchaser

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help others

by kls in

jw
friends

there has been many questions on the thread, asking for any advice or thought's on how to talk to a friend or loved one in the org.it would be great if everyone could think of ways to reach them and help us bible dummies talk to them.

there's alot of you out there ,a hole world with idea's ,even one idea could help someone.what made you see ?, did someone say just the right thing to make you think?

was it some thing you read?

Windchaser

I think Francois is right about this. It's something that has to come from your heart.

What really convinced me that it wasn't the truth was coming to boards like this and being reasoned with. The thing that grabbed me most was Crawdad spouting out all the dates that the gov bod claimed would be the beginning Armageddon. Then he reasoned that if you claim to speak from God and what you say doesn't come true, then you are a false prophet.

I had to learn it from a virtual stranger, though. I don't think people I loved (like my mother or sister - both non-jws) could have convinced me.

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I Am So Sad

by Windchaser in

jw
friends

january 26 is a particularly hard day for me.

two of my children were born on this day, five years apart.

i can't wish either one of them a happy birthday.

Windchaser

January 26 is a particularly hard day for me. Two of my children were born on this day, five years apart. I can't wish either one of them a Happy Birthday. All those years that I wouldn't and now that I can, I can't. My son would have been 30 today and my daughter is 35 and is still angry with me (I guess) for raising her as a jw and for being a rotten mother in general.

Today seems worse than the others years I've had to endure this day. Maybe it's the milestone birthdays. I don't know. I also hate the date my son died, August 14, 1985.

I appreciate being able to write about it here. I think I'm gonna go cry now.

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My Daughter, Deanna Marie Dupont

by Windchaser in

today, my daughter turns 35. i've been thinking about her a lot the last couple of days, thinking about the blizzard my biker friend drove me through (in his car) to get me to the hospital so i could deliver her there.

i'm thinking about how little she was and seemed so angry to be coming into this world.

i'm thinking how i would give anything to hold her in my arms and tell her i love her.. deanna, i think that it's unlikely that you would even come to a board like this.

Windchaser

Today, my daughter turns 35. I've been thinking about her a lot the last couple of days, thinking about the blizzard my biker friend drove me through (in his car) to get me to the hospital so I could deliver her there. I'm thinking about how little she was and seemed so angry to be coming into this world. I'm thinking how I would give anything to hold her in my arms and tell her I love her.

Deanna, I think that it's unlikely that you would even come to a board like this. Because of your upbringing, you probably never want to hear the term "Jehovah's Witnesses" again.

I just want you to know (and maybe someone who is reading this knows you to tell you) that I love you and I miss you and I am so very sorry for being a bad mom. Please find it in your heart to forgive me. You will always be my daughter, my beautiful daughter.

Please contact me through my e-mail address here.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Love,

Mom

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Newbie with Question RE: Male "Member"

by RubaDub in

this is my first week here and am glad i have found a place to comfortably share thoughts and questions.

when doing research in the society's publications, i often come across the term "male member.".

i often get confused with the term and would like to know how others here understand the term.. as i see it, there are at least three distinct uses for the term:.

Windchaser

I think that all the sisters should crochet the brothers at bethel penis warmers. Then they might not be so confused and confusing.

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What If

by Windchaser in

the bible is made up of metaphors, lessons in symbols, and we are learning life's lessons and have to repeat lessons until we learn them?

what if the spirituality you knew as a child was all you needed to know all the answers?

Windchaser

Hi heathen, thanks for responding. When I was a jw, I truly believed in the Bible, just as it was taught to me. I took a lot of it literally as I was supposed to. Since walking away I have gone through different opinions this. I had even come to the conclusion that it may not have been inspired by God, that it was a means for world religion to have its control over the masses. I have a strong belief in God, by the way, and have throughout this transition.

I have wondered why God made such a confusing book for mankind. Why would a God of love do such a thing? Then, while talking with a friend, it just started to make sense that the Bible is full of lessons about life and that, if we listen and learn, we can be happier and closer to God. Maybe getting close to God is a whole lot easier than we think. When I was a child, I felt God's presence and it was very simple for me to love him and be close to him, because I absolutely knew that he loved me and wanted me to be happy.

So many people ponder if the Bible should be taken literally or not. I don't think that's so important any more. I see lessons in it and I believe it is inspired. It's like the law of gravity. Gravity is a fact of life and if you go to the top of a mountain and jump, you will probably die. That's a fact. Maybe all the laws God made are the same. The laws are there, but we have to learn about them and the Bible uses metaphors to teach these things to us. If you fall down enough, you will learn about gravity and learn how not to fall. We keep falling down until we learn that what we are doing goes against the facts of life. That's all I was saying. No, I don't believe in reincarnation, mainly because it's not important to me. God is important to me.

We all had a carrot dangling in front of our faces (The New System). The carrot is nice, but how about feeling close to the Creator even now? When I was a jw, the few who would talk about it would say what kind of house they were going to build and all the great stuff they were going to have and do. The only thing they forgot to mention was the supreme happiness you get when you know that God loves you and cares about you. I felt it as a child and I feel it sometimes now. All that other stuff that the jws talked about is just a bonus.

Love,

Dottie

Edited by - windchaser on 22 January 2003 11:7:2

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A tale of three sisters.........

by Tatiana in

it started in 1956. a girl was born.

with lovely strawberry blonde, curly hair.

dad and mom kissing.

Windchaser

(((((((((((((((April))))))))))))))) My heart and tears are with you. You have many friends here who care about and love you. You are a Sweet Angel who has been surrounded by demons. My mother used to tell me that I was a survivor. We share this in common, April. No matter what happens, we don't lose the important things, when people or cults are taking what seems like everything away from us. The important things that make you, you, can never be taken away. You are loved for who you are.

Love,

Dottie

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What If

by Windchaser in

the bible is made up of metaphors, lessons in symbols, and we are learning life's lessons and have to repeat lessons until we learn them?

what if the spirituality you knew as a child was all you needed to know all the answers?

Windchaser

((((April & Brummie)))) Yes, that is what I was thinking.

Heathen, I don't get the remark about God recycling. Would you please explain.

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My Son

by Windchaser in

i have three living children.

one i gave up for adoption, so i never hear from him.

my only daughter doesn't speak to me because she hated being a jw and hated me for forcing it on her.

Windchaser

Just a little update: Greg and Lauren called me last week to ask me about grandparents and great grandparents. Lauren bought a baby book and they are putting all the family tree info in it. It was so sweet hearing Greg call his grandparents Granny, etc. And he called Lauren, Honey. Again, I am so happy that he seems to be having a normal life and wants me to be a part of it.

Love you guys. Thanks for caring.

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What If

by Windchaser in

the bible is made up of metaphors, lessons in symbols, and we are learning life's lessons and have to repeat lessons until we learn them?

what if the spirituality you knew as a child was all you needed to know all the answers?

Windchaser

the Bible is made up of metaphors, lessons in symbols, and we are learning life's lessons and have to repeat lessons until we learn them? What if the spirituality you knew as a child was all you needed to know all the answers?

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Things I like.......

by Tatiana in

jw
friends

wanted to do this to remember why i want to be here......i'd also like to know some of your likes....if you care to share..... 1. rainstorms.

2. black kittens with yellow eyes.

3. wind chimes.

Windchaser

I like and love...

Threads like these, especially when they come from someone so missed, April.

Giving to my friends.

Forgiving people who have hurt me.

Being with a special someone who is a kindred spirit and loves me back.

Being with a special someone who is a kindred spirit and likes me back.

Vincent Van Gogh

Irises

Having a mud bath and acting like a kid at the Verde River.

Scented candles, incense.

Merlot, Scotch and soda, Gin and tonic

Getting to know all of you.

And the list could go on, but I need to go to the bathroom.