Posts by Winston

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HELP! - I'm Torn

by Francois in

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there's no doubt that in many religious philosophies, believers are advised not to fight with evil; not to resist.

jesus certainly advised his followers not to "resist evil.".

and that's why i'm torn.. i believe, as do most of you here, that the watchtower bible & tract society is evil; a manifest, clear, present, and palpable evil.

Winston

Francoise,

How do you pronouce your handle?

As to the Scripture about resisting evil.

I think it means a purely personal type of revenge.

We can easily get caught up in our own thinking and blow things way out of proportions when we get to selfcentered.

I don't feel that we can take Jesus words and use them to say we shouldn't fight evil in the absolute sense.

Because look at his own life and what he did, he faught evil, so we have to keep that in mind when we read his words and not try to give it an absolute sense meaning.

Just like when people say they have unconditional Love they usually don't mean it in the absolute sense( that would be imposible).

Or when the Bible say abstain from fleshly desires it does mean we should abstain from eating, getting sleep, and having sex with our husband or wife.

I didn't read all the other post but I read all of yours so please forgive me if I duplicated anybody's answer.

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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS

by You Know in

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jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.

these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.

so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.

Winston

Shelby,

Lets leave all judging to Jesus Christ, You Know is not with out hope.
Come on lets not get Watchtowery all over again.

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Reply to AF-Part I

by dunsscot in

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:: he didn't merely suspend it -- he substituted another for it.

in our case here, therefore, god's telling abraham to kill isaac was by definition not murder.

: first, i am not sure what i believe in this case.

Winston

Duns,

So whats your point you quoted Scriture but gave no application.

The Pope quotes Scripture so what, give us application.

Show us all how and why the Scritures you quoted aply to AF.

Don't be general nail you pionts solidly, if you even can?

To reach the heart make application so plan we fall down on our face and say, "God is really in the mist of you people!"

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You Know...nice apostate stuff

by ISP in

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yeah...i was looking at your stuff that you posted down the board.

plenty of yk bible 'insights'........of course none of which would be supported with references to wts publications.the wts would reject all that stuff and df you if you tried spreading it in your community.. .

after all the wts said in the 1.8.01 wt page 14.... he does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to bible understanding.. .

Winston

YK,

Let me get this right.

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...you really have no faith at all. Because evidently you were mere followers of the Watchtower to begin with, and not really devoted to Jehovah in true faith, once you began to doubt the Watchtower you were left with nothing but the worthless husk of a religion.
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You K. are you saying here what I think your saying? That you are NOT a follower the Big WT, but have unshakable faith in YHWH.

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Reply to AF-Part I

by dunsscot in

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friends

:: he didn't merely suspend it -- he substituted another for it.

in our case here, therefore, god's telling abraham to kill isaac was by definition not murder.

: first, i am not sure what i believe in this case.

Winston

duns,

You remind me of a guy I knew who became my foreman at work.
He would alway ask me how to do this and that, and so I asked him:

How did you get to be my boss when your alway asking me what to do?

He said, "If I can't dazzle them with briliance I baffle them with Bull Shit."

Duns are you trying to baffle us with Bull Shit?

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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS

by You Know in

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friends

jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.

these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.

so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.

Winston

You Know,

What about you Fatal Ass ump tion?

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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS

by You Know in

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friends

jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.

these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.

so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.

Winston

You Know,

Do you think by a strange coincidence you picked this topic "Fatal assumptions".

I mean it just dawned on me You K. your the one who has made the Fatal Ass..

What does the Bible say about Judging?
What will happen to us if we Judge some one as a Apostate and they are not?

Could that be a Fatal Ass. Could it be? Think You Know!

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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS

by You Know in

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friends

jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.

these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.

so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.

Winston

You Know,

You assume way too much.

ass you me.(assume)

Why not reavailuate your stand on what an apostate really is from the Bible, not some made up unbiblical rule(arbitrary).

So much hot air we should be able to get our balloon airborne now.

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Conditional love

by noidea in

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friends

being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

you are only loved if you tow the line.

i only have one thing to say,.

Winston

Dave,

My deepest sympathy.

I beleive in what goes around comes around.

People who teach these things(shunning) must have a terrible veiw of family relationships.

What else can we expect from a bunch of old men so removed from society and real family life, they must not be very happy themselves and so make decisions that rob others of normal happiness.

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FATAL ASSUMPTIONS

by You Know in

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friends

jesus further related in the 15th chapter of john: "nevertheless, i have spoken these things to you that, when the hour for them arrives, you may remember i told them to you.

these things, however, i did not tell you at first, because i was with you.

so, the point is that jesus has not told his anointed ones certain things yet because the hour for them has not arrived.

Winston

You Know,

You speak in such generalities and base you assumptioms on nonexistent facts.

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The definition of an apostate is one who falls away from devotion to Jehovah.

I'm not on the same page as you.

Obviously you are not on the same page as Jehovah either. That's indicative of your own apostasy.

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All assumption based on a wrong premise!

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