the numbers don't lie... definitely slowing down!!.
in the 40´s the average growth per year was 20%in the 50´s it was about 10%they had four decades of solid 5% per yearnow the average for the past 16 years has been 2%.
maybe in the future it will be 1% or 0 or even negative????.
pale.emporer, you got it right! They have always hypocritically pushed the lie that when the numbers are slowing down their non existent god is "sifting". When the numbers increase, even by a pittance, their non existent god is blessing them.
WHAT A JOKE!
seeker4 - robert smith from vermont.
former jw, elder, pioneer, etc.
i've got a few thousand posts on these sites, but haven't posted for a year or two.
HI Seeker4,
Just in case you stop by again, Worf says Hello! and Kaplaa!
...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.
nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.
my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..
That is a bare bones assembly hall. Nothing impressive. As someone mentioned above, it was probably also built to sell quickly in the near future.
i was visiting with my family and it seems the rc was worse than i thought.
now they all seem to think that "we are so close to the end" and that the "brothers are really preparing us for the gt".
some even saying that soon our message will change to a judgement message for mankind and talking about how we need to improve "everything we do".
Great point that they have already been told that: "the anointed gb will disappear at the beginning of the great tribulation".
With all of the property sell offs, the gb is preparing to "disappear" with all of the money. That is at least part of what is going on.
The rank and file are just being strung along, and some, probably not all, will be shocked when all is said and done.
This whole thing is comical.. And not surprising. many of us predicted these things way back in the late 1990's and early 2000's on the first forums like H2O and others like it.
To all my exjw friends: We will have the last laugh. And within the next few years. I personally feel the watchtower will be gone by 2020. And maybe sooner.
according to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....
Reminds me of how they've always claimed that when more people got into the borg, that was jehovah's blessing. And then whenever masses of people leave, jehovah is "sifting" , and that's proof of his blessing.
Ridiculous bullsh#t !!!!!
not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?
in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!
this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.
Yep. The greed is obvious. And this is just another of the countless pieces of evidence showing that there never was, is not, and never will be some supposed "God" using the watchtower as its "channel"
latest boe letter:.
october 22, 2015. to all bodies of eldersre: use of jw stream.
dear brothers:we are writing to inform you that arrangements are being made for video recordings ofcongregation meetings, circuit assemblies, and conventions to be uploaded to jw stream (accessibleat http://stream.jw.org) in various languages.
Hi Star Trek Angel,
Yes. This was predicted some time ago in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.
Very Powerful! She did an excellent job!
Worf
i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
Boeing,
I agree with you.
Worf
i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
Hello,
This is Worf. Your story is very interesting to me because during my fade from the watchtower, I went through a similar situation as you are going through. I was married also to a regular pioneer for 14 years. We had no children but I was also an elder for the entire decade of the 90's. Elder and regular pioneer wife. During my fade the congregation elders turned her against me. She had even gone to the elders and told them I was reading "apostate" books and looking at apostate websites. I came home one day and she was gone. The next time I saw her was 3 years later in divorce court.
Your situation is different because you have a son and your love for your son. I would be furious in your situation. As someone on this thread advised you earlier: GET AN ATTORNEY! DO NOT LET THAT SO -CALLED BROTHER SPEND ANY TIME WITH YOUR SON.
Its a power game. They love having the influence and power over others. They believe they have carte blanche because of supposedly being god's people. DO NOT LET THEM. Strike now. get an attorney and either sue or have some legal papers drawn up that prohibit him from being with your son. Use the watchtower pedophile problem as something you are concerned about if necessary, but see an attorney and have something legal to threaten that so-called brother and the elders and/or congregation with. As someone said earlier, they are trying to do an end run around you. Remember, they love drama. Especially in "the name of Jehovah". For your situation right now: "The best defense is a good offense." GO ON THE OFFENSE NOW! In hindsight when I look back on my situation which was 15 years ago, I would have gone to an attorney when my intuition first sparked me and I would have used that against the elder body or any individual who was influencing the injustice I went through So take the advice of all who have posted here and go on the offense in some way. They are trying to keep you upset to the point where you will be so upset that you are stifled. Take action now. Something. Believe me. I know. I won out in the end, but it could have been sooner if I had not underestimated them. You can still shock them now and win out now. If you take action. Now. Feel free to contact me through this forum by e-mail. I recognize their tactics from reading your story.
Sincerely,
Worf
