three entire units of whole blood.
i needed surgery quickly, badly, right now.
i had bled out half my blood in a near-death accident, 'member?
I think they are more worried aout that then they are him!
It was a poster here, I think, who commented on the hypocrisy of the WT position. They were noting the disconnect in common sense when 'the symbol of life becomes more important than life itself'
Of course, it doesn't help that he's still a JW.
okay, i am incredibly shy but i just joined a club.
the guy that i have a huge crush on happens to be the president of this club.
meetings are only once a month and he's only the president for about three or four months more.
Was, actually, quite shy when I was younger.
Then had an epiphany.
You know, you could just as easily die driving home from work today? Part fall off some airplane flying overhead, meteor strike, traffic accident, terrorist attack, gun could go off in a car or house I'm passing, etc. Did you know, in 1998, 43,501 people died in traffic accidents?
Think about that a minute.
Have you even SEEN 43,501 people in your entire life? *snap* dead in an instant. If they were lucky.
Sorry, but I don't really see the point in being shy or doubting oneself.
Nobody lives forever - make every second count.
it`s usually pretty quiet up on the side of this mountain,but not this morning.i was awakened by a screaming woman farther down the mountian side.she was really screaming and screaming .she continues screaming and saying help me,somebody help me,god somebody help me.i figured something really nasty was going on so i quickly got dressed,got my ass out the door,and down the side of the mountian.when i got to the spot where the screaming was coming from,it was quiet with the exception of a passing plane and a vehicle that went by,so i kept looking around.i came across a lady in a van and asked her if she heard anyone screaming.she said yes,that was my daughter throwing a temper tantrum,and thanked me for coming to see what was wrong.i could see the daughter walking down the road and she was fine,so i hiked back up the mountain to my house....jeeez,what a way to wake up in the morning.you would have thought some one was being raped or being beaten to death....my cat just puked on the carpet....the day just has to get better..lol...outlaw
in the midst of the debates -- or wars -- concerning the issues of creation and evolution, there is a tendency to over-generalize.
both sides often refer to the opposing side with the broad term of either "evolutionist" or "creationist.
" and yet there exists within both sides a great deal of variety and even controversy.
God could have explained just a little, and made the course of humanity sooooooooooo much less frought with disaster
LOL!
Indeed, that's another whole can of worms. For somebody supposedly omniscient, he sures exercises a remarkable lack of foresite.
I mean, if, for example, when he told his people 'Thou shalt not kill' and then, like, didn't allow them to kill and just used his own divine force to make things happen, just imagine how much more peaceful human history would be.
The unspoken exception to 'Thou shalt not kill' being 'except for those who are my enemy, and I'll leave that up to you to decide' has caused more harm than anything the devil could have cooked up.
in the midst of the debates -- or wars -- concerning the issues of creation and evolution, there is a tendency to over-generalize.
both sides often refer to the opposing side with the broad term of either "evolutionist" or "creationist.
" and yet there exists within both sides a great deal of variety and even controversy.
You're completely wrong. I never said it should contain everything.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WHAT IT DOES CONTAIN SHOULD BE CORRECT.
If Moses 'couldn't understand' anything at all about creation (including, apparently, 'It was really complicated and took a long time'), then the bible should contain nothing at all about it.
If the one, all-powerful and all-seeing god decides to have man write something down, don't you think it is important enough to be accurate?
And, when we can then prove it is NOT accurate, what does that mean? That 'god' is wrong? Or, that 'god' did not, in fact, have anything to do with the bible?
How errors has SCIENCE made
You fail to realize 'science' is a fairly modern discipline. It has not stated anything to be an absolute fact that was later refuted - hence, '0 errors'.
But, does unanswerable questions make a belief false?
No, contradictions do. If the 'word of god' says one thing, and we can verify that it is false, you have a problem.
in the midst of the debates -- or wars -- concerning the issues of creation and evolution, there is a tendency to over-generalize.
both sides often refer to the opposing side with the broad term of either "evolutionist" or "creationist.
" and yet there exists within both sides a great deal of variety and even controversy.
So God dumbed it down for everyone until they could catch up
No, 'It was really complicated and took a long time' is dumbing it down.
'It took seven days' is lying.
Either way, just because their 'world' was flooded doesnt mean it was the entire world
It didn't say 'their world' or 'part of the world'. And remember, these aren't people recalling their accounts. This is supposedly the one, all-powerful divine being relating these things to Moses. He said 'every living thing that draws breath' was destroyed in the flood. That's pretty conclusive, no? And, he doesn't even stop there, oh no! Gen. 7:4 => "...and every substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."
Yessirre, every living thing that draws breath that was created, and every substance that was created.
in the midst of the debates -- or wars -- concerning the issues of creation and evolution, there is a tendency to over-generalize.
both sides often refer to the opposing side with the broad term of either "evolutionist" or "creationist.
" and yet there exists within both sides a great deal of variety and even controversy.
I should elaborate: the above is a link to 192 articles dealing with biblical errors - there are many, many more than 192.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=579&e=1&cid=638&u=/nm/20020917/en_nm/health_superman_dc
"there are religious groups -- the jehovah's witness, i believe -- who think it's a sin to have a blood transfusion.
well, what if the president for some reason decided to listen to them, instead of to the catholics, which is the group he really listens to in making his decisions about embryonic stem cell research?
A) It, in my opinion, destroys life.
How do you reconcile that with the fact that MOST of those very same fertilized eggs this pill causes the excise of would, in fact, have been lost anyway? Remember the figure? It's been quoted as high as 80% lost naturally?
There you have it she is not alive. proof positive.
This is exactly what I meant by ALL examples of something must be considered. Do ANY, say, 80 year old women meet those critera? Yes, of course.
Do ANY, say, 4 week old fetuses? NO!
That's the difference.
In any case, the argument was whether they were a seperate living organism from it's mother or not. I provided the definition of said - you can see clearly it does not meet the criteria.
If your invisible friend tells you otherwise, well, that's not my problem, is it?
Edited by - Xander on 20 September 2002 13:11:9
in the midst of the debates -- or wars -- concerning the issues of creation and evolution, there is a tendency to over-generalize.
both sides often refer to the opposing side with the broad term of either "evolutionist" or "creationist.
" and yet there exists within both sides a great deal of variety and even controversy.
1) The bible says everything was created in seven days. SEVEN DAYS!! Okay, so maybe if there was a divine being responsible for its authorship, early man would not have understood the physics and biology involved. Couldn't 'god' just say 'it took a really long time'? Why say 'seven days', which is ridiculous? It isn't true in any definition of 'day', unless you define each day to be 'some incredibly long amount of time that is indeterminate', but then how do you know there were exactly 7 of these lengths of time? Why say '7' at all? Especially 'days', which early man could only interpret one way.
Now, if the bible was a book a fables by ancient men, you can easily see where 7 days came from. Their 'god' is all-powerful and miraculous - OF COURSE it only took 7 days to make the earth! Pfah!
2) And the flood, how about that? Bible says it covered the entire earth. Now, today, we know that can't possibly be true, so you try to explain away 'well, they really meant the earth as it was known then', etc.
Which isn't what the bible said. It says 'the entire earth' - and not just the entire earth, no indeed, god says in Gen 6 that he will, in fact, destroy every single thing he created with this flood. Yes, that's another statement it makes that modern science knows can't possibly be true, so it has to be explained away.
There are a few more, but the point is that the bible makes many statements that, if you believe it was inspired by god, there are problems with. Specifically, they can't be true as they were written.
In any case, here's an interesting link for those willing to think for themselves:
192 Biblical ErrorsThese actually present much greater detail than I have above, and are quite an interesting read.
Edited by - Xander on 20 September 2002 13:3:47
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=579&e=1&cid=638&u=/nm/20020917/en_nm/health_superman_dc
"there are religious groups -- the jehovah's witness, i believe -- who think it's a sin to have a blood transfusion.
well, what if the president for some reason decided to listen to them, instead of to the catholics, which is the group he really listens to in making his decisions about embryonic stem cell research?
Sorry, but I don't care even a little bit about what a bunch of misogynistic, self-righteous, ignorant, archeo-dictators who claimed to hear god talking to them had to write several millenia ago.
Their world where women were kept and traded as goods is long gone, and nothing of it is relevant today.
It's sad that we somehow ignore what God has to say about this topic on abortion
And I think it's sadder when people make major life decisions based on fairy tales.
Edited by - Xander on 20 September 2002 10:49:41
